Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, CANADA
I remember when this walk started. I was in high-school and some guy came to talk about it (like 8/9 years ago or something)...
I was opposed to it becuase it singled out *male* violence - when violence is a genderless, raceless problem. I was one of maybe 100 people out of 1500 in my high-school who didn't go to the event. Instead we each donated $20 to the united way.
Consider this: Immagine if there was a walk against jamacian violence?? Or immagine if there was a walk against german violence, american violence, russian violence, serbian violence...
Yes, there is violence against women - which is sick and disgusting - but for me all violence upsets me - which is why I can't support a walk against MALE violence - but I would support a walk agaist VIOLENCE.
So - to my point - has this walk changed any since I was first introduced to it so many years ago?
Admitedly, I was very bothered by the guy who came and spoke to us in grade 9. I left the assembly feeling like I came from a violence-mongering group (men).
Coming from a home where I had to boot out my step-father becuase he hit my mom when I was 16 I am all against violence - don't get me wrong. I just don't like feeling like a perpetrator when it isn't waranted (regardless of statistics. I could bring up race/crime stats (from the US) that would make people sick).
I -might- give money to this group - but only if they drop their anti-men attitude - and adopt an anti-violence view (of course a tax receipt would be required).
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May-13-2003 01:41
xllilkittylx
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: T.O
Re: Walk Against [Male] Violence!... are YOU gonna be there?
quote:
Originally posted by SgtFoo
This THursday, May 15th, 2003... the Walk Against Male Violence is @ Queen's Park! Sign up through your school (or maybe jsut show up).
I'll most likely be there!! Will any other TAs be there to represent??
Only male violence? what about female violence? hey... it happens!
May-13-2003 01:46
xllilkittylx
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: T.O
quote:
Originally posted by rabbitjoker
I remember when this walk started. I was in high-school and some guy came to talk about it (like 8/9 years ago or something)...
I was opposed to it becuase it singled out *male* violence - when violence is a genderless, raceless problem. I was one of maybe 100 people out of 1500 in my high-school who didn't go to the event. Instead we each donated $20 to the united way.
Consider this: Immagine if there was a walk against jamacian violence?? Or immagine if there was a walk against german violence, american violence, russian violence, serbian violence...
Yes, there is violence against women - which is sick and disgusting - but for me all violence upsets me - which is why I can't support a walk against MALE violence - but I would support a walk agaist VIOLENCE.
So - to my point - has this walk changed any since I was first introduced to it so many years ago?
Admitedly, I was very bothered by the guy who came and spoke to us in grade 9. I left the assembly feeling like I came from a violence-mongering group (men).
Coming from a home where I had to boot out my step-father becuase he hit my mom when I was 16 I am all against violence - don't get me wrong. I just don't like feeling like a perpetrator when it isn't waranted (regardless of statistics. I could bring up race/crime stats (from the US) that would make people sick).
I -might- give money to this group - but only if they drop their anti-men attitude - and adopt an anti-violence view (of course a tax receipt would be required).
I agree.. it should be a walk against violence for all!..
May-13-2003 01:48
cap
Anything goes...
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
Re: Re: Walk Against [Male] Violence!... are YOU gonna be there?
quote:
Originally posted by xllilkittylx
Only male violence? what about female violence? hey... it happens!
Yes, but the ending result is usually a few scratches and torn clothes, why would we protest against this?
*Note: I'm assuming this walk is for same sex on same sex violence*
Re: Re: Walk Against [Male] Violence!... are YOU gonna be there?
quote:
Originally posted by xllilkittylx
Only male violence? what about female violence? hey... it happens!
Exactly. I'm for what Rj has explained also. Well said man.
Btw, welcome to TA lilkitty.
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May-13-2003 01:49
xllilkittylx
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: T.O
Re: Re: Re: Walk Against [Male] Violence!... are YOU gonna be there?
quote:
Originally posted by cap
Yes, but the ending result is usually a few scratches and torn clothes, why would we protest against this?
what are you talking about?!.. girls are actually really brutal.. we could break a couple of bones and even kill, and i bet there are some out of control females that do, and you SHOULD protest against it.
ps. clothes are expensive :P can't afford to have them torn!! =P.
May-13-2003 01:51
xllilkittylx
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: T.O
Re: Re: Re: Walk Against [Male] Violence!... are YOU gonna be there?
quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
Exactly. I'm for what Rj has explained also. Well said man.
Btw, welcome to TA lilkitty.
thank you =)
May-13-2003 01:52
cap
Anything goes...
Registered: Dec 2002
Location: Toronto, Canada
Re: Re: Re: Re: Walk Against [Male] Violence!... are YOU gonna be there?
quote:
Originally posted by xllilkittylx
what are you talking about?!.. girls are actually really brutal.. we could break a couple of bones and even kill, and i bet there are some out of control females that do, and you SHOULD protest against it.
ps. clothes are expensive :P can't afford to have them torn!! =P.
It was a joke
its true tho.. i've actually seen some crazy girls goin at it
May-13-2003 01:53
xllilkittylx
Junior tranceaddict
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: T.O
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Walk Against [Male] Violence!... are YOU gonna be there?
quote:
Originally posted by cap
It was a joke
its true tho.. i've actually seen some crazy girls goin at it
yeah... my friend told me about how after a hockey game some girl from the other team jumped her because she thought my friend called her a bitch or something.
May-13-2003 01:56
StereoPrincess
sassy one-piece
Registered: May 2001
Location: SPFRI
the way i understood the topic was that this was a walk against violence caused TO men not BY men. i'm i right?