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gumble
doing the fat gut strut!



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne
Copy Control

i just bought a cd, actaully the new placebo album, and anyway, it has "Copy Control Technology"

this basically means, i cant play it in my pc as cd audio, it opens up its own shitty little player and plays 48kbps mp3s (or some compression form @ 48 kbps)

it plays fine in normal cd players.

anyway, since i OWN this cd, i am therefore allowed to make copies of it for my own personal use, and i do this with all my cds, so i can just play the mp3s and leave the cds on the shelf.

SO

i was wondering, anyone found a utility of know a way of copying the cd audio tracks of the cd, as this isn't illegal as long as i dont distribute them.


thanks


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webmeister
beats that go thump



Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Sydney Australia

I think Phillips make a home stereo that has a normal CD player and a burner Specifically designed to copy audio CDs!

Failing that, try using a program like CloneCD or Alcohol 110% to rip the audio directly off the CD itself...


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escee
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Perth, Australia

this would suck, but you could download the cd from the net if there was no way to get it on the computer. Could you play it in a stereo which had a line out? and run that through your computer?

*Shit below is my opinion about copyright, mp3s, DRM, read if you want.*

I think that labels copy protecting cds by not allowing them to be played on the PCs is poor. Its going to stop your average joe listener from copying the stuff, thats it. Release groups end up with promos/advances which usually dont have any of this sort of protection. The people who make mass copies of cds end up just pressing the cd using the bought one as a master, i dont specifically know but i doubt they would rip it to a computer and then burn from that. Even if they did, see my point about release groups.

If i bought a cd then that cd is mine to play where i want. I may not own the songs on the cd, but i do own that cd. Companies efforts to stop piracy do nothing, and until MS introduces Palladium (a digital rights management os, bad news, probably wont ever see light though) and gets hardware vendors on side then mp3s will be unstoppable. Even then a new format would come about, either that or a black market for normal computer parts and software.

Old Post Jun-07-2003 18:10  Australia
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bassaholix
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Sydney, Australia

Actually... no.. u are not allowed to make a BACKUP copy of an AUDIO cd that you bought... those are the rules of copyright.. you are aloowed to copy software, like windows 2000 cd or whatever.

Suck? no not really.. you have the original... = quality!!!

If you want to rip it to share on the net...

/slaps hand... "naughty gumble!!!"

LOL...

No backup copies of Audio CD's allowed.. period..


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gumble
doing the fat gut strut!



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne

bassaholix... read my post again, hahah, i have no intention of sharing it with anyone, i just want to do it for convenience, and im allowed to do that, cept, THE MAN WON'T LET ME!


fight the power!

stick it to the man!


oh, and don't put a label on me!


at this stage, im just going to run it through a normal cd player record the whole thing in sound forge, and use the proper track times to cut up the file, thats as good as i can do.


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Pointy
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Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Melbourne, Australia

The companies have spent heaps on this new 'technology' but a simple texta shits on their face. Basically, an audio CD reads from the inside of the disc, to the outside. Data CDs, read from the outside in. Seeing cdrom drives are in computers, they expect data cds therefore the laser goes straight to the outside of the CD and reads. These new copy control cds have put a bit of data on the rim of the CD, so when u throw in it ur drive, it thinks its data - you followin? So pull out a black marker (go a whiteboard marker before a permanant) and draw a thin (thin thin) line round the outside of the cd - yes over the silver part, not the picture. Chuck it in ur computer and hopefully it'll work Its how the l337 hax0rs are ripping all the copy control discs.

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gumble
doing the fat gut strut!



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne

"don't try this at home kids"


hahha, mmm, ok i might try this, cos i heard this ages ago, but not where to mark the cd, so its on the outside, yup that all makes sense.



you done this yourself pointy? :P


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SoupaFlys
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Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne, Australia

yep i've also heard of this texta beating million dollar technology before as well. never tried it out personally however... never had to. yes i'm one of those mofos who havn't bought a cd in 5 yrs

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Ghostface
down with the sickness



Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne

AHA! now it all makes sense

I was ripping hepas of cds today for the catalogue at the radio station i help out at. Was ripping heaps of stuff, then when i put in the sound of goodbye and yet another day, this fucking little player pops up. Closed that down but the tracks wouldn't register. How fucking stupid.


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gumble
doing the fat gut strut!



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne

what radio station ghostface???


i lived in that shithole for most of my life as well :P


well, north of the state, but a year or so in hobart


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gumble
doing the fat gut strut!



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne

well hmm, non-permanent does fuck all, im off to find more pens!


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Ghostface
down with the sickness



Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Melbourne

Edge Radio. It's basically the University radio station (is run from the hobart campus). Only got the permanent license in January but is going pretty well.


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