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flashman
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Dresden
Create o good clap sound?

Hi

really amazing forum here.
sorry for my broken englisch.

my question is:

how to make a really good clap, which sounds good to my kicks and drums?
every clap i used is really shit in combination with my track.
please help me and thank you for any advises!

cu

flashman

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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Sydney, Australia

How I make my claps is to take a standard clap sound, from a 909, 808, reason, what ever.

Then, give it some reverb so it has a tail.
Then, use the amp attack filter to cut out the beginning of the clap. This will take away alot of the clapping sound and just leave the middle and end.
Then put it in conjunction with your second and fourth kick. It should sound good.


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iLLicit
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Locked in my studio, somewhere in Holland

I guess if you want good claps you really have to have good samples. Just search the internet, there's a lot to be found on it.
You can also check out sample cd's.
Or just do what I always do: look for tracks with claps that are separate, so that you can sample it. I have found a lot of good, usable claps in r&b/hiphop songs, for example justin timberlake or something. You can get pretty amazing results after processing these samples!


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Sean Walsh
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Downtown Vancouver

Yeah, one good way is to bite from other shit. Hell, even Solarstone and Scott Bond admitted to doing the exact same thing in their forums; there's nothing either wrong or illegal about it.

If you have cool edit, you can get some amazing claps by taking your generic 909 fodder and throwing it through an Echo Chamber.

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cole-hawk
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it isnt legal to cut from other traxx..
but if you modify it a little bit, nobody could hear, that it is cutted from another track.

or you buy sample cds

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iLLicit
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quote:
Originally posted by cole-hawk
it isnt legal to cut from other traxx..


Well, that isn't exactly right. You can sample other types of music, as long as those samples aren't whole melodies or something similar. But you can sample percussion sounds...


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quote:
Originally posted by iLLicit
Well, that isn't exactly right. You can sample other types of music, as long as those samples aren't whole melodies or something similar. But you can sample percussion sounds...


yeah there is nothing wrong with sampling a SOUND out of a track. unless that sound is crucial to the track. and even so an artist isn't gonna care enough to take legal action...

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moog_baby
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actually you are NOT allowed to sample any sound at all of a copyrighted track, though in practice of course people do. still breaks copyright though..

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dj-rob
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: California, USA
Dunno

Im kinda weird, what I do is get 3 clap samples, 2 the same one different.. with the 2 the same, make the root notes higher so the default note is a lower pitch.. not too low just subtle.. so u will have a layer of, c5 pitch, and then 2 lower ones.. kinda confusing but i got bored on day and did it and has more depth... then as everyones saying reverb it up, not too much but enough to give it that hard edge sound. also i make the bass freq up alot with the 7band in fl... like 63hz goes up im weird i just do that.

basically start with a good sample, and use effects and layers of more claps to give it that sound.

Thats my 2 cents.


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iLLicit
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quote:
Originally posted by dj-rob
Im kinda weird, what I do is get 3 clap samples, 2 the same one different.. with the 2 the same, make the root notes higher so the default note is a lower pitch.. not too low just subtle.. so u will have a layer of, c5 pitch, and then 2 lower ones.. kinda confusing but i got bored on day and did it and has more depth... then as everyones saying reverb it up, not too much but enough to give it that hard edge sound. also i make the bass freq up alot with the 7band in fl... like 63hz goes up im weird i just do that.

basically start with a good sample, and use effects and layers of more claps to give it that sound.

Thats my 2 cents.


Ok, that's a nice idea of layering those claps. Never thought about it actually.
But why would you increase the low-band eq settings? Adding a boost in 63 hZ only diminishes your room for bassed and sub-basses. And you are definitely going to need the extra room in there!
So I would suggest not to boost, but to cut in the lower regions. I always use low-pass filters on every instrument so that I have as much space available for the basses and subs.


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