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knightmad
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Belo Horizonte, Brasil
Question Equivalence Class

(For a definition of what is an Equivalence Class, look at http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EquivalenceClass.html)

Well, I would like to understand better all the sub-divisions of trance (and electronic music in general), so I am trying to get one class representative of every trance sub-genres.
For example, if Bossa Nova was the target, I could say "Garota the Ipanema" is one good representative for Bossa Nova, everyone who listen to "Garota de Ipanema" thinks: this is Bossa Nova.
So, which sub-genres we have in Trance (progressive, hard, melodic, vocal, etc.) and what would be a good representative for each one?

P.S. (Before you say "Trance is one good style and don't care what is the sub-genre, or anything like this and bla bla bla ....", thank you, I like music, but I like these nuances too : ))


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1. Kate Ryan - Scream For More (Club Mix) (7:42)
2. Hiver & hammer ft Javah - 5 Million Miles (A Side Mix) (8:35)
3. Jan Johnston - Calling Your Name (Thrillseekers Vocal Mix) (7:01)
4. Kira - I'll be your angel (Minimalistix remix) (6:36)
5. Dumonde Vs Lange - Memory (Lange Mix) (7:54)
6. DJ Tiesto - Salt Tank - Eugina (Remix) (4:30)
7. Motorcycle - As the Rush comes (9:00)
8. Cass & Slide - Perception (Vocal Mix) (5:41)
9. Jam and Spoon - Stella (original version) (6:17)
10. Madelyne - Beautiful Child (6:29)

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Stassi
America's Degenerate



Registered: Jan 2001
Location: Queens
Re: Equivalence Class

quote:
Originally posted by knightmad
(For a definition of what is an Equivalence Class, look at http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EquivalenceClass.html)

Well, I would like to understand better all the sub-divisions of trance (and electronic music in general), so I am trying to get one class representative of every trance sub-genres.
For example, if Bossa Nova was the target, I could say "Garota the Ipanema" is one good representative for Bossa Nova, everyone who listen to "Garota de Ipanema" thinks: this is Bossa Nova.
So, which sub-genres we have in Trance (progressive, hard, melodic, vocal, etc.) and what would be a good representative for each one?

P.S. (Before you say "Trance is one good style and don't care what is the sub-genre, or anything like this and bla bla bla ....", thank you, I like music, but I like these nuances too : ))

who cares about subdivisions and labelwhoring, just listen to what you like because you like it, not because it falls under a certain label of music.


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starglider
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: Montreal, Canada
Re: Equivalence Class

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
who cares about subdivisions and labelwhoring, just listen to what you like because you like it, not because it falls under a certain label of music.


quote:
Originally posted by knightmad
P.S. (Before you say "Trance is one good style and don't care what is the sub-genre, or anything like this and bla bla bla ....", thank you, I like music, but I like these nuances too : ))

Old Post Nov-02-2003 22:23  Canada
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caddyshack
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Registered: Jul 2003
Location: Lansing

no one really knows, but some ppl think they do.

most ppl including me can only tell the difference between the main groups ie trance, house, progressive, hardstyle

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zarathustra
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: Calgary

At first I was trying to put labels on different tunes and DJs, but the more I listened, the more opinions started to change and the more diverse styles I was exposed to. Now there are just two genres I label stuff as: like/don't like.

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victor
P A R T YY? coz we gotta!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

man... i can't believe u brought set theory into this... lol

anyways...

progressive... gabriel and dresden
dance... paul van dyk
techno... mauro piccotto
uplifting/dream/trippy/fucking good trance... armin van buuren
deep house/prog... deep dish, saeed and palash

will add more later!!!!

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jdjd
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: sf

quote:
Originally posted by victor
man... i can't believe u brought set theory into this... lol

ahahahaha
next he'll start pulling out Topology and complex analysis to prove that there exists a unique genre of trance that everyone will like...

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victor
P A R T YY? coz we gotta!



Registered: Nov 2001
Location: Montréal

quote:
Originally posted by jdjd
ahahahaha
next he'll start pulling out Topology and complex analysis to prove that there exists a unique genre of trance that everyone will like...


rotfl... i know!!!

and the funniest part is that i had taken a break from doing some practice on mathematical induction to browse the site ,....

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knightmad
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Belo Horizonte, Brasil
Re: Re: Equivalence Class

quote:
Originally posted by Stassi
who cares about subdivisions and labelwhoring, just listen to what you like because you like it, not because it falls under a certain label of music.


Well, you didn't got my point. I am not expecting to modelate my taste for music by your answers. I use to buy->listen at random (well, being honest I download->listen->maybe buy *cough*). All I want is some samples of how most people divide trance for me to understand better what are you talking about when you often say "Nice the set of progressive trance performed by DJ X" or something.

Got it now or should I perform my socket puppets presentation for better understanding?

All I need is: 1) the major divisions and 2) One good representative song for each division.

Thank all people that had posted useful info.
Fernando


___________________
1. Kate Ryan - Scream For More (Club Mix) (7:42)
2. Hiver & hammer ft Javah - 5 Million Miles (A Side Mix) (8:35)
3. Jan Johnston - Calling Your Name (Thrillseekers Vocal Mix) (7:01)
4. Kira - I'll be your angel (Minimalistix remix) (6:36)
5. Dumonde Vs Lange - Memory (Lange Mix) (7:54)
6. DJ Tiesto - Salt Tank - Eugina (Remix) (4:30)
7. Motorcycle - As the Rush comes (9:00)
8. Cass & Slide - Perception (Vocal Mix) (5:41)
9. Jam and Spoon - Stella (original version) (6:17)
10. Madelyne - Beautiful Child (6:29)

Last edited by knightmad on Nov-03-2003 at 06:23

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knightmad
tranceaddict in training



Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Belo Horizonte, Brasil

quote:
Originally posted by jdjd
ahahahaha
next he'll start pulling out Topology and complex analysis to prove that there exists a unique genre of trance that everyone will like...

lol ... the "class equivalence" stuff was an attempt to not say the word "label", to avoid people saying exactly what those guys said above, "Forget about the f**king labels" or something. ; )


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1. Kate Ryan - Scream For More (Club Mix) (7:42)
2. Hiver & hammer ft Javah - 5 Million Miles (A Side Mix) (8:35)
3. Jan Johnston - Calling Your Name (Thrillseekers Vocal Mix) (7:01)
4. Kira - I'll be your angel (Minimalistix remix) (6:36)
5. Dumonde Vs Lange - Memory (Lange Mix) (7:54)
6. DJ Tiesto - Salt Tank - Eugina (Remix) (4:30)
7. Motorcycle - As the Rush comes (9:00)
8. Cass & Slide - Perception (Vocal Mix) (5:41)
9. Jam and Spoon - Stella (original version) (6:17)
10. Madelyne - Beautiful Child (6:29)

Old Post Nov-03-2003 06:27  Brazil
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