so hear i am reading threads where everyone is talking about how "sure anyone can just play this killer chooon! but to program the set properly is what makes a dj good"


and i started to think is this really the case? ive seen people talk about how djing SHOULDNT be about having your tracklist ready before your set.


so how do you program a set, yet not have it already outlined? are you programming the set, or letting the crowd program it for you buy interpreting their reactions to the tracks you drop and seeing what you think they might like next


what they may want to hear next may not be what "fits" next, and also with a limited amount of vinyl being taken on trips how can the djs program their sets perfectly considering they dont have their whole selection, they want to play newer/unreleased tracks and they want to stick to their own labels releases a bit as well

also how can we judge how good the programming of a set is if we are only lisening to it on an mp3 instead of being in the crowd. beacuse the set "should" be based on waht the crowd wants, not what the mp3-lisener wants, and thats not always teh same thing ( read floor filler vs unkown rare vinyl)



personally i think that after reading TA for 2 years that we are all just full of shit and overanaylze djs way to much, they play a good song and you go nuts, its not like if a local played the same song you wouldnt like it, i challange you all to somehow go to a party where there will be a talented dj, but maybe not a top100 dj and just have fun, see if you can enjoy the night and not worry to much about counting the beats or naming the track

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Originally posted by Flec personally i think that after reading TA for 2 years that we are all just full of shit and overanaylze djs way to much, they play a good song and you go nuts, its not like if a local played the same song you wouldnt like it, i challange you all to somehow go to a party where there will be a talented dj, but maybe not a top100 dj and just have fun, see if you can enjoy the night and not worry to much about counting the beats or naming the track

dont know about the set programming stuff as i dont DJ, but i agree with the last bit!

well said Shane...very well said

songs do sound differently when you play other songs before it. SO programing a set is important. But equally important is reading the crowd, if they arent diggin the set, you need to change.


What I like to do is find songs that go good in pairs or threes and remember what kind of a mood it sets. Then I can interchange these small programs into a set. Of course I don't have too many records so it is easy.


but don't underestimate the skill it takes to dj. There is a lot to set selection that goes unnoticed by many, except those that "overanalyze" the music.


plus I have to agree, there are a ton of dj that can dj the same if not better than the top dj's, that is where contacts, and who you know comes into play.

i love how a hillery duff thread or the 23942189123 thread about your favorite song gets more hits and replies then some of the more thought out and less common threads

Agred with the above comment.


Live I just do what feels right, crowed wise and for myself.


At home, depending on if Im just fucking around or recording.

I never put together my sets anymore, I just go with the flow. I should put a proper demo together but I never can. I just play what I want!




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HOLY CRAP THATS WAS THE BEST LINE I HAVE HEARD IN A LONG TIME FLEC!!!

The only way to enjoy a set is to be completely surprised when that perfect song hits at just the right moment....then you know the DJ has listened to the crowd. Its not about programming a set...its about hitting the right track at the right moment.

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Originally posted by Flec personally i think that after reading TA for 2 years that we are all just full of shit and overanaylze djs way to much

amen to that. fuck the name behind the decks, just spin me a good set I don't care who you are.

Nice words indeed.. Finally something that has been thought over before posting, instead of another 'new PvD choon OMFG 0wns j00!!!' thread.

Personally, I think 'programming a set' and 'playing the right track at the right moment' are somewhat similar.. They're not the same, but they're no way two completely different things to me.. Hope this is clear, hard to tell exactly what I mean with it. Both have to do with looking ahead a few records, that's one thing.

Personally, I try not to go for the obvious records, but pick my own (even though it's only in my bedroom). But then, I spin techno, and in that it's somewhat easier to avoid the obvious, because there are less overplayed tracks I think. I know what labels and producerd to look for (and also discover new ones every now and then), and also know which ones to avoid (*cough* DK8)

To respond to the topic title, I fully agree.. A great DJ doesn't just play the obvious hit records, but is able to create a stunning set with unknown, fresh ones.

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I think programming is just as important as beatmatching... it's what separates Sasha from someone like Oakenfold... Oakenfold throws down whatever he can (look at his Ibiza album... it's all over the board in terms of programming), while Sasha takes time building up and working his set - everything flows smoothly and there's no abruptness. A programming disaster is when 2 songs totally clash in style and are played back to back... like if you've heard Magik 4, mixing Vimana-We Came into Der Dritte Raum-Trommelmachine...

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