This is always a thorny subject in Europe, especially Eastern Europe. The Romani as they prefer to be called have never had a place to call their own in Europe and in places such as Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro, etc. they are treated pretty rough by the local populace who look down upon them and constantly discriminate against them through lack of education, jobs and thus social benefits. As the European Union expands this is an issue that they will have to deal with especially in those nations that will be joining the E.U. from the East. As for Britons, just watch out for them in the tubes Interesting to see what the British on here think of this.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan As the European Union expands this is an issue that they will have to deal with especially in those nations that will be joining the E.U. from the East.

This is precisely the issue. Of the EU's "four freedoms," free movement of people is the most controversial. And it's one of the reasons we've seen a rise in nationalist, anti-immigration political parties across the EU.

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Originally posted by imokruok This is precisely the issue. Of the EU's "four freedoms," free movement of people is the most controversial. And it's one of the reasons we've seen a rise in nationalist, anti-immigration political parties across the EU.

Interesting to see where that idea of free movement of people goes, after all many of the Eastern European nations wouldn't mind seeing the Roma move to "greener pastures" makes it less troublesome for them to deal with the social issues. The thing about the Roma is that they never stay in one place for two long, or can't because of many differing factors from internal to external ones.

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Originally posted by NYCTrancefan This is always a thorny subject in Europe, especially Eastern Europe. The Romani as they prefer to be called have never had a place to call their own in Europe and in places such as Slovakia, Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria, Serbia and Montenegro, etc. they are treated pretty rough by the local populace who look down upon them and constantly discriminate against them through lack of education, jobs and thus social benefits. As the European Union expands this is an issue that they will have to deal with especially in those nations that will be joining the E.U. from the East. As for Britons, just watch out for them in the tubes Interesting to see what the British on here think of this.

Heh, it's true that they are discriminated against by the general population, but it's not like they're doing anything to stop the prejudice against them. The majority of them are begging or stealing, while their children aren't taught to behave in schools, so they have to take an additional year or two just in order to learn how to behave. But aside from the occasional skirmishes with skinheads, they're pretty much not being actively discriminated against, so really they're the ones to blame for their living conditions.

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My experience with gypsies have not been too good. When they come to Mansfield, they go on a massive car park which is used for ppl to go shopping, and they generally steal.

Rememeber when i went to church and a family sat at the back who were gippos, and all of their clothes had the creme security tags on them, i couldnt stop laughing!

i can't really say my run-ins with Gypsies have been great, to say the least. The few i saw were either:

A. begging with a KFC big chicken tub

B. getting drunk with construction workers and then bothering everyone around them.

C. hitting my friends in the back of the legs with sticks in a big crowd.

but i would be willing to give them a chance.

What a bunch of fucking racists you guys are.

Gypsies are considered a different ethnic group, and they have latin roots. That's why they are more accepted in my country, Spain, Italy and Romania than in the rest of europe (it's strange this action from the UK, i never expected it).

While it's true that some of them steal, beg and kill, of course the large majority doesn't. Just because they look dirty, live in trailors etc doesn't mean they are all a bunch of thieves. The thing is, when a gypsie commits a crime, it gets all splashed in the newspaper "GYPSIE KILLS". It happened before with black people, now it's with gypsies and ucranians.

I must admit i've had some bad experiences with gypsies, got mugged twice by them, but i've also been mugged 3 times more by white people.

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Originally posted by borron I must admit i've had some bad experiences with gypsies, got mugged twice by them, but i've also been mugged 3 times more by white people.

Geez Borron how may times have you been mugged. I doubt that some of the opinions posted here so far will impact the Roma people. Their main problem lies in the fact that they have never been integrated into European society for many reasons, therefore they are always viewed as being different from mainstream societies in which they live. Among every group of course stereotyping tends to be an ignorant sentiment among us humans, because not every Romani acts in a criminal manner

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Originally posted by borron What a bunch of fucking racists you guys are. Gypsies are considered a different ethnic group, and they have latin roots. That's why they are more accepted in my country, Spain, Italy and Romania than in the rest of europe (it's strange this action from the UK, i never expected it). While it's true that some of them steal, beg and kill, of course the large majority doesn't. Just because they look dirty, live in trailors etc doesn't mean they are all a bunch of thieves. The thing is, when a gypsie commits a crime, it gets all splashed in the newspaper "GYPSIE KILLS". It happened before with black people, now it's with gypsies and ucranians. I must admit i've had some bad experiences with gypsies, got mugged twice by them, but i've also been mugged 3 times more by white people.

People are not racist from telling personal experience they have with gypsies. They have a reputation for reason, not all are bad, but allot of them are.

U also can not compare them to black people, because the prejudice from society in the past was extreme for reasons of being more supreme.I dont think any of us are going to burn them down because we beleive we are more superior?

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Originally posted by borron What a bunch of fucking racists you guys are.

Because we say that most gypsies live off begging or stealing, while the most prosperous ones sing at the weddings? It's not racism, it's reality.

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Gypsies are considered a different ethnic group, and they have latin roots. That's why they are more accepted in my country, Spain, Italy and Romania than in the rest of europe (it's strange this action from the UK, i never expected it).

Their language is similar to latin, but genetically they're not really european.

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While it's true that some of them steal, beg and kill, of course the large majority doesn't. Just because they look dirty, live in trailors etc doesn't mean they are all a bunch of thieves. The thing is, when a gypsie commits a crime, it gets all splashed in the newspaper "GYPSIE KILLS". It happened before with black people, now it's with gypsies and ucranians.

It's true that not many of them kill or steal, but I'd say that the majority of those guys here beg for money. It doesn't really make the news though.

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I must admit i've had some bad experiences with gypsies, got mugged twice by them, but i've also been mugged 3 times more by white people.

Well, you should take care of yourself better. But really, considering that the gypsies consist of much less than 25% of the population of Portugal, you can say that it's several times more likely for a gypsy to be a mugger than for a regular portugese guy.

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Originally posted by nic01445 i can't really say my run-ins with Gypsies have been great, to say the least. The few i saw were either: A. begging with a KFC big chicken tub B. getting drunk with construction workers and then bothering everyone around them. C. hitting my friends in the back of the legs with sticks in a big crowd. but i would be willing to give them a chance.

Are there very many gypsies in the US? That's news to me.