try loookinf on a open source site like www.sourceforge.net maybee something there

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the java software development kit is free to download...

java.sun.com

or more specifically, here:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/download.html

Java is kind of a waste of time anyway though, very slow and heavily deprivelaged because it's designed to be web-based.

I guess if you're doing web applications and are familiar with object oriented coding it's not so bad.

The API specs (manual) are all on that java.sun site, too.

Textpad is a nice (mostly free) program to code with.

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Textpad is what I used.

No not Notepad or Wordpad, this is software you download off the 'net and it is fully compatible with Java, C++, and a few other langauges I never used. It's free and it because it recognizes the langauges, it will have the different colors for different commands/variables/etc... that makes programming so much easier.

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Originally posted by UglyDave hello, i'm lookin for some free s/w for codin java apps. something along the lines of JCreator PRO, but without the price ..it's only about $30, but it's $30 more than i have. forget the proper name of this tool.. development environment perhaps?? David

If you are using *nix you can try eclipse.
http://www.eclipse.org/
If you are using Windows or Mac OS you could try BlueJ. Blue J is not really a development eviroment but check it out.
Blue J will also work in *nix.
http://www.bluej.org/

I mostly use BlueJ for Java and uhh...*cough*...I use code warrior for C++




By the way, do any TA's use ForTrane here?

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Originally posted by DJ Nuclear Java is kind of a waste of time anyway though, very slow and heavily deprivelaged because it's designed to be web-based. I guess if you're doing web applications and are familiar with object oriented coding it's not so bad.

i thought it was designed mainly to be compatible on macs and PCs, and its just pretty web friendly
idk
either way i'll he happy
one, i'm right, the other way my comp sci teacher's wrong

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Originally posted by DJ Nuclear Java is kind of a waste of time anyway though, very slow and heavily deprivelaged because it's designed to be web-based. I guess if you're doing web applications and are familiar with object oriented coding it's not so bad.

I've been under the impression that the Java development team decided that C++ had far too many security risks involved, so they decided to create a language that would run on a virtual machine. In this manner it's actually faster in some respects, like if your program crashes the virtual system you just restart the java app, as opposed to restarting the computer. I believe the web-based applications only started emerging around the mid 90s, although I could be wrong, I wasn't even in High School then, but that's what I remember reading back then.

Plus with a virtual machine the buffer overflow hacks that worked so well back in the day (with an overloaded Finger command) don't work anymore, cause the hacker is restricted to the virtual machine.

Java is also considered by many to be easier to code complex programs in. Actually some programmers are starting to stick Java code into their larger projects instead of going back in C++ because it's so much easier...it's oftentimes referred to as "dirty Java."

I used GVIM..

learning java was pretty cool.

learning c++ was (is) a fucking nightmare.

there you go.

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I've started to learn Java and it's quite cool. I've used JCreator, Nedit and Xemacs and it works for me, although the biggest thing I've done is a "LocalSearchEngine".

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