I really don't understand the big deal about the coffin thing. So what? Soldiers aren't allowed to be patriotic?

Why would the US government not want us to see this? I've seen these pictures and heard that statement along with them dozens of times but not one person has been able to explain exactly why I should feel outraged over it.

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Let's see coffins in everyday papers doesn't help recruiting efforts do they?
They also don't help parents think they're doing a good thing by sending their kid abroad to come back in a box.

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Fired for taking a freaking picture, what a joke. Every thing with this government is a secret it's hard to believe they're for freedom and democracy, because they're always trying to take away our freedoms.

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Didn't you already post this?

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That was for the lady that took pictures.

This is for the memoryhole.org noise that's been in the worldwide news.

Many times I've seen multiple threads for the same artist at the same club on the same day and no one barely complains.

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I still think that the lady was breaking a rule and she should have been punished simple as that.

I dont think it was about hiding the truth as in every paper every day, on the news, on the internet we have photos of the dead, lists of the fallen soldiers, gory photos, americans burning hanging from bridges, families crying on tv. Its not like we don't know what is going on.

In fact the most somber places I can think of are government attractions, the Vietnam Memorial and the Arlington National Cemetary. Our country is well aware of what happens during war.

If you can tell people what you see at work to bring closure wouldn't you take pictures too? To be a brave person knowing that you can be put out of work takes guts. You wouldn't be making that statement if you had a friend that died in Iraq would you? Besides those "Americans" hanging on the bridges where employees of Blackwater Security. They were ex-soldiers known as mercs or mercenaries whose fellow co-workers avenged their deaths against the Geneva Convention just like Bush did without declaring a legal war.

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Last edited by ogvh5150 on Apr-24-2004 at 04:45

once again, some of you guys in this thread are being spun.

this time it's "thememoryhole.org" doing the spinning.

The DOD does not publish daily casualty reports for it's fucking health. Knowing full well the body count will end up on every newspaper and television show everywhere.

The images are protected out of respect. The DOD feels that it is not every hamfisted reporter's right to exploit them. But we have in this country, the Freedom of Information Act. Legislation that in which the DOD cannot defend against. Thus, they are forced to release the images that are again, protected out of respect.

This is not about the First Amendment
This is not about the "shady dealings of the Bush administration"
This is not about the boogey man does not want you to see these...
This has become about politics and how to spin people.

Don't be guilty

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Originally posted by Q5echo The images are protected out of respect.

They don't want pictures taken because it's a political liability to show our boys coming home in boxes. The respect explanation is their spin.

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The DOD feels that it is not every hamfisted reporter's right to exploit them.

Since when is it considered exploitation to photograph coffins draped in our flag to give our soldiers a proper burial? Other administrations have allowed these types of pictures. I don't hear anyone complaining about close up photographs of JFK's bloody head.

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Originally posted by igottaknow They don't want pictures taken because it's a political liability to show our boys coming home in boxes. The respect explanation is their spin. Since when is it considered exploitation to photograph coffins draped in our flag to give our soldiers a proper burial? Other administrations have allowed these types of pictures. I don't hear anyone complaining about close up photographs of JFK's bloody head.

your way out in left field again with JFK's bloody head. I'm not even going there.

What the F**K do you know about the DOD and respecting their dead?

Your being spun. Deal.

ok heres the reason (or one of them anyway) why the DOD passed this rule on the 1st day of the Gulf War.

It seems that in 1989, as Bush was making a press confernece on live TV to all the networks a plane with caskets arrived back in Denton (think it was denton they said) field. Now some brilliant guy got the idea to justaxpos the ceremony of the flag drapped coffins arriving to USA soil again with Bush's press conference - extremly bad taste in most everyone's opinion.

So to prevent such a future debcaul the DOD decided the reporters would not get the best of them and abuse the bodies of their fallen comrades for politican purposes again...


It was on nightline today. Interesting. Ted made a really good report on it.

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