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stevebutabi
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Registered: Apr 2003
Location: On the Edge of the Trans-Amazonian Highway in a Hastily Erected Wooden Shack
Unhappy lag problem

i have another question guys...


i have a lag problem with my new system...

when i try to moniter the cue with one ear and
match with the speakers with the other ear, there is a lag
and it's so hard to mix that i end up having to cue with both cups of my headphones on with both records playing in them.

can i fix this?

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L-H
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Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Oslo, Norway

unless you run it through alot of digital effect's etc, I see no reason why there should be a delay problem

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stevebutabi
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Registered: Apr 2003
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no man, no digital effects.


the only thing that I can think of is that I have a 20 foot
cable that runs between my tables and the amp... that distance
shouldn't cause lag though right?

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L-H
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nope, not noticable anyway.

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stevebutabi
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hmm, so it's not the cable... ok...

anyone else know what it could be?

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dj chex
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acostics of the room maybe?

How close are your speakers to you while you mix?


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stevebutabi
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they're very close to me- like 2 or maybe 3 feet
2 speakers, one to the left and one to the right


it's a really bad problem... i could mix percectly with
my setup at home, but with this lag beatmatching is impossible!

...very frustrating

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tu_face
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Registered: Oct 2000
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i reckon it could be 2 things

1- 20m of wire is ludicrous, use shorter wires, it might not affect it much but its enough to fuck you off

2- theres a problem with your mixers cue signal/output signals, what mixer have you got? is it worth getting fixed? does it have master jacks out? (1/4" mono jack) in which case, plug one set of headfones in the normal headfone socket, and the other in one of the master jacks, listen to one in each ear. if it still lags then its your mixer thats fucked.

if you havent got jack output, then try straggling the master outputs.. put one of your rca wires that go to your amp in the red 'master' and the other in the white 'record' output (the names may differ depending on what mixer you have, but most have 2 outputs). if you do this, you will be able to tell if one output is lagging behgind the other, and then you can plug your rca wires into the one that matches the sound from your headfones

hope this helps


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stevebutabi
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quote:
what mixer have you got? is it worth getting fixed?


I have a bottom of the line Behringer DX626 mixer. It's a piece of
crap, but man it does the job...

I don't have that extra headphones jack, so I couldn't try that.

I tried straggling the outputs. No dice.
It's not the outputs that are lagging behind eachother.

All outputs are lagging behind the cue. I mean, I can actually
hear the lag between the sound coming off of the needle and the
sound coming from my speakers.

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tu_face
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so the cue signal is fine... its the master output. you need to work out if its a problem before, or after the signal leaves the mixer.. has it got master dB LED display? if so, do the LED's match up with your headfone signal?

try hooking it up with shorter wires, if that doesnt make a difference then try hooking the mixer up to a different amp with different wires.

if you can't get it right after that then your mixer is knackered and you need to buy a new one


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stevebutabi
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yeah, the led's match up with my headphones.
the sound from the speakers is delayed



i wonder if could it be my amp? i mean it's not a real amp- i have my mixer plugged into a bose dvd/cd player because it has
awesome speakers... could the bose system be causing the delay?

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tu_face
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quite possibly, as i said try wiring it up trhu a different system if you can, the dvd system may have some kind of sound processing unit within it which could be causeing the delay


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