Well, it isn't like Fox lying is anything new - although legitimizing it probably is.

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I think that the media should be allowed to lie as much as it wants to. As I see things a privately owned media company should not be restricted in its reportings by law, but by the quest for large audiences: If it becomes common knowledge that a company lies, then people should be sufficiently intelligent to abstain from believing its reportings.
If a ban on lies in media was to be imposed, an entire range of grey issues would appear too. Say, the "Iraq posses WMD"-lie: Would a newspaper stating that "the US invaded Iraq to rid it of its WMD" be lying? Or how about a Christian newsletter quoting genesis?

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Originally posted by trancaholic I think that the media should be allowed to lie as much as it wants to. As I see things a privately owned media company should not be restricted in its reportings by law, but by the quest for large audiences: If it becomes common knowledge that a company lies, then people should be sufficiently intelligent to abstain from believing its reportings. If a ban on lies in media was to be imposed, an entire range of grey issues would appear too. Say, the "Iraq posses WMD"-lie: Would a newspaper stating that "the US invaded Iraq to rid it of its WMD" be lying? Or how about a Christian newsletter quoting genesis?

I agree.

It would have opened Pandora's box had they ruled the other way, and in reality Reagan, Clinton, and Bush II have deregulated the media almost completely. Thus the court really had no standing to rule against Fox News.

The only problem is that many people will believe the lies, and yes it's not only Fox News that lies.

Within the NY Times for example, there was a reporter, Judith Miller, who was friends with the neocons.

She also "reported" many of their lies about Iraq.

Last edited by DaveSZ on Jun-15-2004 at 11:31

Fox news can lie

they just need a disclaimer at the begining of their program telling all the plebs that their stories suffer from creative license

Ok so they can lie, but what about if the lie about someone i.e. couldn't they then be done for libal?

But still that is gay. If everywhere was like that the news wouldn't be worth watching.

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The whole damn media lies as far as I am concerned, feeding us the same recycled shit everyday, and this is worldwide not just in America. I take great liberty to read many different sources as possible and its all slanted in some fashion. Fox is just more blatant than others The number one problem in media starts with the editorialists who write their columns with some clear bias to it. Just look at the BBC and fatboy Andrew Gilligan and his disgraceful exit from the beeb. Irresponsible journalism is the hallmark of many of today's broadcast companies Fox News no exception.

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Originally posted by trancaholic I think that the media should be allowed to lie as much as it wants to. As I see things a privately owned media company should not be restricted in its reportings by law, but by the quest for large audiences: If it becomes common knowledge that a company lies, then people should be sufficiently intelligent to abstain from believing its reportings. If a ban on lies in media was to be imposed, an entire range of grey issues would appear too. Say, the "Iraq posses WMD"-lie: Would a newspaper stating that "the US invaded Iraq to rid it of its WMD" be lying? Or how about a Christian newsletter quoting genesis?

for once i may actually disagree with you here. there are waaaay to much wackos out there. to allow lies (lies in the meaning: something that everyone with facts knows is wrong.) would be to allow a lot of people to be brainwashed. I can't see anything, whatsoever good in allowing news agencies to lie, can you?

yes there may be sometimes where it hard to tell where it is a lie or not. but most often it is no problem. in the WMD case, bush was the one lying and giving bad fact, ie he should be held responsible not the newspapers. in the christian case, that is not an obvious lie, they most often have some vague things to back it up with, but if they lie about facts (for example telling that most scientist disagree with the evolution theory) then yes, they should be held responsible and punished for that imo.

so long as they don't curse or show a tit, its all good.

right?

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Originally posted by DaveSZ http://www.vaccinationnews.com/Dail...CourtRules2.htm

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Appellate Court Rules Media Can Legally Lie. By Mike Gaddy Published 02. 28. 03 at 19:31 Sierra Time

Haha. Welcome to 2004 buddy.
Anyway, its still funny that Fox News would fight so hard for their "fair and ballanced" right to lie.

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Originally posted by Yoepus so long as they don't curse or show a tit, its all good. right?

Hehe, exactly! Violence and lies on prime time TV is much more preferable than any kind of nudity. Stick to that and there will be no fines.

Show a tit for a microsecond and whatch a nation explode

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