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Mangler
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Jun-17-2004 12:10
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00soups00
cruzin

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Melbourne
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this is quite interesting article, and who knows where it shall lead.
from what i can gather, stips has a wide respect in the trance community, for doing what, im not actually sure... however i do know that i met him a few years back when i started back in 2001, but i do not know much else about him..
from my point of view, and obviously limited input and information re: these politics is that 5am is hopefully a step forward, in the right direction,(and from what i know, they're doing a terrific job.) (AS LONG) as it is handled properly, and run correctly, because the last thing that a flayling trance scene (and lets face it, thats what we have, because we're in the minority here) is political FUKN bullshit.
i dont know what 5am has done to arouse this anti-sediment to their cause, but this just doesnt happen overnight, so whatever they've done, they need to right there wrongs, bury their pride and either apologise to the individuals that they have wronged, or move on despite what has happened and not let this saga get out of hand, because it has the potential to do so.
In the end, we all flame each other on here, and tear each other to shit, but at the end of it all, we're all people who believe in the same thing and thats EDM. We all want it to grow, because we know how special it is, and we know the teething masses out there who listen to pop shit are fuked up because that is not a definition of what music is about. However these politics are starting to get in the way of what our music is supposed to be about.. Not PLUR and all that shit, but about a group of individuals who love what we love, and are all pushing it forward in the right direction, in the pursuit of keeping it alive.
So.. without trying to get anyone offside, please heed my advice. 5AM and Mangler, do what you have to do to repent for your previous sins. I cant comment on what has happened in the past, simply because i dont know what has happened, but do what you have to do in order to keep your part in this scene rocking.. And if that means hiring the seemingly 2nd best up and coming dj (julesPLees) the do it. If it means cutting your losses with him and moving forward, then do that too...
Out music is too important to let it goto shit because of these half-assed political disagreements..
In closing, i just wnat to say that im not endeavouring to get involved in this political debate, nor inflate it.. Surely we can understand that keep our scene alive is more important then entering this political debarcle. Let the individual parties sort it out themselves, and if sorries need to be said, then say them...
I Love Trance... and i love the fact that i can hear it when i go out... and when i hopefully make it as a dj i want to provide this enjoyment to others...
Lets not let anything stand in the way of that, okay!!!!
PLUR and all that jazz
haha, j/k (i only put that PLUR bit in, because i found out what it meant last night)
Last edited by 00soups00 on Jun-17-2004 at 13:35
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Jun-17-2004 13:30
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escee
q1dm6

Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Perth, Australia
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Creating a sub drama in this weeks drama thread.
| quote: | Originally posted by 00soups00
this is quite interesting article, and who knows where it shall lead.
from what i can gather, stips has a wide respect in the trance community, for doing what, im not actually sure... however i do know that i met him a few years back when i started back in 2001, but i do not know much else about him..
from my point of view, and obviously limited input and information re: these politics is that 5am is hopefully a step forward, in the right direction,(and from what i know, they're doing a terrific job.) (AS LONG) as it is handled properly, and run correctly, because the last thing that a flayling trance scene (and lets face it, thats what we have, because we're in the minority here) is political FUKN bullshit.
i dont know what 5am has done to arouse this anti-sediment to their cause, but this just doesnt happen overnight, so whatever they've done, they need to right there wrongs, bury their pride and either apologise to the individuals that they have wronged, or move on despite what has happened and not let this saga get out of hand, because it has the potential to do so.
In the end, we all flame each other on here, and tear each other to shit, but at the end of it all, we're all people who believe in the same thing and thats EDM. We all want it to grow, because we know how special it is, and we know the teething masses out there who listen to pop shit are fuked up because that is not a definition of what music is about. However these politics are starting to get in the way of what our music is supposed to be about.. Not PLUR and all that shit, but about a group of individuals who love what we love, and are all pushing it forward in the right direction, in the pursuit of keeping it alive.
So.. without trying to get anyone offside, please heed my advice. 5AM and Mangler, do what you have to do to repent for your previous sins. I cant comment on what has happened in the past, simply because i dont know what has happened, but do what you have to do in order to keep your part in this scene rocking.. And if that means hiring the seemingly 2nd best up and coming dj (julesPLees) the do it. If it means cutting your losses with him and moving forward, then do that too...
Out music is too important to let it goto shit because of these half-assed political disagreements..
In closing, i just wnat to say that im not endeavouring to get involved in this political debate, nor inflate it.. Surely we can understand that keep our scene alive is more important then entering this political debarcle. Let the individual parties sort it out themselves, and if sorries need to be said, then say them...
I Love Trance... and i love the fact that i can hear it when i go out... and when i hopefully make it as a dj i want to provide this enjoyment to others...
Lets not let anything stand in the way of that, okay!!!!
PLUR and all that jazz
haha, j/k (i only put that PLUR bit in, because i found out what it meant last night) |
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Jun-17-2004 13:47
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00soups00
cruzin

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Melbourne
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Jun-17-2004 13:52
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