at home - line out to my line in on the pc and record through wavelab

I use a dedicated philips cd recording deck. Heaps easier and better sound than through a p.c. the discs are heaps more expensive and hard to get though.

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Originally posted by batemanscott I use a dedicated philips cd recording deck. Heaps easier and better sound than through a p.c. the discs are heaps more expensive and hard to get though.

absolute garbage. As long as your sound card is not a POS you can get just as good if not better results recording onto a hard drive that you can even with DAT or minidisc, which is what they have been using in professional studios for the last decade or so up until about 2 years ago when they started to move to computer based recording. Programs like sound forge and the like have so many recording optiona and sampling rates far above anything you can achieve on a CD or minidisc. Plus it makes post production changes like normalisation, compression and even editing out mistakes simple.

Trust me, as long as your pc is powerful enuff (and it doesnt take much) recoding onto your computer is going to be the easist way for you to create your own mixes.

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Originally posted by SABRE` How do you guys and gals record your mixes ??

Gals use Barbie recording 2.0 or the latest version of Soundforgerina.

Guys use GI Joe Pro 4.0 or Tonka Recording Amp.

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Originally posted by RobertRollie Logic.

I agree with this.

Actually robert if you look you'll note that I'm not talking about what you *can* do with software (and It's disappointing that you would be editing out mistakes) I am talking about recording directly to a cd.

Most people that connect to a pc do so with a cheap, shitty, unshielded 3.5mm to 2 rca cable that doesn't maintain 75 ohms nor have separate networks for the various frequencies, then they use cheap soundcards etc and generally end up with pretty crappy sounding recordings.

Imagine just hitting "record" and achieving an exact recording. Sound Easy?

The reasoning behind such extreme recording range with these programs is beyond me. The vinyl doesn't put it out, the needle doesn't put it out, the cd can't record it, the cd player , amp and speakers in even alot of high quality systems can't reproduce it anyway so why would you?

Even if your recording at 192khz and you have a studio grade system to play it back on, your ear can't hear it. Golden rule mate...
20 to 20.

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The reasoning behind such extreme recording range with these programs is beyond me. The vinyl doesn't put it out, the needle doesn't put it out, the cd can't record it, the cd player , amp and speakers in even alot of high quality systems can't reproduce it anyway so why would you?

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Originally posted by batemanscott Actually robert if you look you'll note that I'm not talking about what you *can* do with software (and It's disappointing that you would be editing out mistakes) I am talking about recording directly to a cd. Most people that connect to a pc do so with a cheap, shitty, unshielded 3.5mm to 2 rca cable that doesn't maintain 75 ohms nor have separate networks for the various frequencies, then they use cheap soundcards etc and generally end up with pretty crappy sounding recordings. Imagine just hitting "record" and achieving an exact recording. Sound Easy? The reasoning behind such extreme recording range with these programs is beyond me. The vinyl doesn't put it out, the needle doesn't put it out, the cd can't record it, the cd player , amp and speakers in even alot of high quality systems can't reproduce it anyway so why would you? Even if your recording at 192khz and you have a studio grade system to play it back on, your ear can't hear it. Golden rule mate... 20 to 20.

one question I have for you though. What happens when your levels are a little up and down. i.e in between some mixes some tunes haven't been cued loud enough than others? Does the CD recorder normalise on the fly? Why the need for special cd's? I 've used a similar device and used plain recordable cd's and worked fine.

Also, out of interest, how does the CD recorder separate the tracks for you in sequence? Or is that done later?

It seems that "each to their own" applies here and there isn't one right method. Scott seems to be happy recording straight to the CD recorder and RobertRollie prefers the PC. For me it's the PC all the way and I've had experience with both including Minidisc etc (which btw, is so portable that I take it to gigs and record live sets).

I use an M-Audio Audiophile 24/96 and I have to say the improvement in sound recording quality is notably better than the SB Live I used to use.

There is one thing I can't stand and that's people trying to fix mixing faults with music apps. Not only are they cheating themselves, but, the people, promoter, girlfriend whoever they are giving it to. It's not the end of the world if the mixing is a little off and besides not everyone or every mix is perfect (but we try). Better to have it raw is my philosophy.

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fixing mixing errors is different to making sure it sounds better.

well that's the distinction i'm trying to make. The music app will allow you to improve the recording levels etc, and it shouldn't be treated as a band-aid to your mixing.

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Originally posted by christos well that's the distinction i'm trying to make. The music app will allow you to improve the recording levels etc, and it shouldn't be treated as a band-aid to your mixing.

You're on the money there mate! Not fair to those that WORK to achieve smooth mixes, that others can touch up faults with software.

The burning decks need a "cd-r audio" disc. different from cd-r. Cheapest i can find is about $1.20 each!! They do sound good though.