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tupsox
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EQ/Compressor

While mixing for the final master, is there a generally accepted technique as to whether you EQ before Compressing each track, or vice versa?

I'm kind of sloppy in this regard...which comes first, or does it not matter that much? Should you just follow your ears?

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alanzo
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EQ should be the very last thing u apply


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Vizay
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there's generally no rights or wrongs when it comes to this matter...

what you should keep in mind is that if you apply the EQ before the compressor and change any parameters on the EQ you'll have to doublecheck the compressor and prolly redo the setting for it since the signal will be diferent than before


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If you compress(maximize) and then add EQ without LIMITER then CLIPPING 100%!!


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quote:
Originally posted by Sebraa
If you compress(maximize) and then add EQ without LIMITER then CLIPPING 100%!!


compressing and maximizing is not the same thing...you can maximize something with a compressor but that's not it's main use...

I suggest you read up a little more on compressors if you have that problem with clipping after compressing


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Massive84
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EQ is my best friend,

compressor i never use.


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alanzo
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quote:
Originally posted by Massive84
compressor i never use.



you must be nuts! i compress nearly everything.. filo and peri gave a tip on here about making sure you compress your leads which is true... compressing your leads, pads, basses, etc etc makes the volume level throughout the instrument consistent..


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SgtFoo
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quote:
Originally posted by alanzo
EQ should be the very last thing u apply


i don't mean to sound like i'm attackign you, but i'm attacking what you said....... no offense or anything...

IN TERMS OF FINAL MIX, ALWAYS MAKE SURE THE COMPRESSION HAPPENS LAST!!
EQ AFTER COMPRESSION WILL CREATE CLIPPING AND DISTORTION!!!!!!!!!


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breakaholic
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I also try to avoid compressor as much as possible while mixing. I might compress some parts of drums but definitely not all of'em, I hardly ever compress basslines either (eventhough you can get very good results compressing kick and bassline). Compressing everything just makes the track loosing it's natural sound, my tip is to use eq to fix sound instead of compressing. Sure the compressor is handy if the levels are "jumping" too much when recording. I use a light/moderate compression on mastering stage if needed.


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alanzo
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quote:
Originally posted by SgtFoo
IN TERMS OF FINAL MIX, ALWAYS MAKE SURE THE COMPRESSION HAPPENS LAST!!
EQ AFTER COMPRESSION WILL CREATE CLIPPING AND DISTORTION!!!!!!!!!


is compressing the final mix a good idea? I tend to just limit/Nor..umm.. I mean.. increase the volume to maximum


I suppose that EQing after compressing will create distortion if you increase frequencies which you should do your best to avoid anyway... always decrease instead of increasing (to boost treble, decrease bass)


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SgtFoo
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When I say compress the final mix, that could be just compression, or the extreme of compression, being limiting. It all depends on what amount of mastering needs to be done to the final mix.

Anything done to the entire final mix of the track (usually over just the stereo mix) is considered mastering. compression and limiting is used most often on pretty much everything that gets released, to some extent.

I've spoken to mastering engineers, and they've mentionned how LOUD and hard-limited the newest Linkin Park album is. It's waveforms are almost perfect rectangular blocks!... but it just goes to show that limiting or compression is what's necessary as the LAST thing you do to the final mix to give it the pro-sound we all seek.

(ppssst!...btw alanzo: NO NORMALIZING!.. YOU NAUGHTY BOY YOU!)


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Re: EQ/Compressor

quote:
Originally posted by tupsox
While mixing for the final master, is there a generally accepted technique as to whether you EQ before Compressing each track, or vice versa?

I'm kind of sloppy in this regard...which comes first, or does it not matter that much? Should you just follow your ears?


Just use your ears and do what you think is best

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