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People in the Military.

I wonder if anybody has the displeasure of being in the military service here.

It is said that strongest form of brainwashing in the world today is the type that occurs in the armed forces. Not only does this equip personel to do humanless acts whilst serving but also fail to live in society as decent members.

In Australia there has just been a case of 2 SAS soldiers being busted for trying to attack a pregnant ex-girlfriend with the aim of her losing the baby from the planned severe beating. The judge questioned the methods of training used with these soldiers because many other members have faced the courts on counts of severe anti-social behaviour. On top of that we've had so many drug scandals with soldiers and a major government enquiry into the suicide of a soldier whilst in training. This enquiry found a culture of abuse within the army.

I've read many psychological journals written that suggest that mammals killing their own kind is very unusual in all species, including humans, and massive amounts of mental conditioning needs to take place before it can be done.

I wonder what a member of the armed forces would do when faced with an order that defies his/her moral principles? Is there right or wrong, or is it just yes and no?

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Ang ' ela_ie
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Hi Spec.

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Hi Spec.

Hello beautiful,

this is quite a topical point of conversation in Australia at the moment, I listened to a full debate on the radio the other day.

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media loves shit that goes against the military,... you never hear about all the good stuff that it does and with the US Army being the largest organization in the world there are bound to be bad apples...

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media loves shit that goes against the military,... you never hear about all the good stuff that it does and with the US Army being the largest organization in the world there are bound to be bad apples...

true dat.

teh same could be said for any non military person. There are murders going on all the time without any military helping.

the type of 'brainwashing' that everyopne tlaks about that goes on in the military is training them to depend on their buddies, their unit. cause in the end it is not what you alone can do, it is what the group of people you are with can do.

so people cannot hang with it, some can, so you take the good with the bad.

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so people cannot hang with it, some can, so you take the good with the bad.

i am bad

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brainwashing = patriotism

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brainwashing = patriotism

I think your using the term brainwashing a little too loosely. but whatever

Aug-12-2004 01:13 United States

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about all the good stuff that it does

like what? i know their are peacekeepers, but what else is "good" about an army?

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I think your using the term brainwashing a little too loosely. but whatever

just think about it

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like what? i know their are peacekeepers, but what else is "good" about an army?

isnt that a big enough job for you?

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isnt that a big enough job for you?

not really, considering they are very few peacekeeping missions. and only happen in a few african coutries and elsewhere.

and please god, dont try and say what america is doing in iraqi is peacekeeping.

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