We cant even support live theatre anymore.

Entertainment, tourism and clubs are all suffering. It's getting harder and harder for clubs to attract clientele. Tourists are obviously not coming anymore and theatre is shutting its doors. Downtown on a weekend night looks more like a scene from Juice than the vibrant club area of the 90s.

Toronto is also getting dirtier, there are more bums thatn ever (and this is not because the city is poorer its because we do nothing to enforce rules) and we have lost the reputation of being a safe clean place to come have fun.

Sars wasnt the reason it just sped up what was happening already. I wont say that the smoking law has anything to do with it (yet) but you have to admit that it was a very stupid thing to do to the tourism industry at a time when it needs a boost. (please dont turn this into another smoking debate thread as we have covered that to death)

Have we not learned from the experiences of US cities in the 70s? Or are Torontonians too arrogant to realize that urban decay can AND IS happening here?

I give Toronto about 10 years before it starts looking like a warzone similar to what cleveland, detroit and washington dc looks like unless we clean up or act now. Sadly socialist mayor miller who we are stuck with for at least 2 more years wont be much help.

Time to clean up the city, make the bums go indoors and use the shelters and help that is available already and clear up the traffic mess.

I MISS YOU TORONTO!

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LOL sure u do!

hehehe

I know london was starting to go through this years ago but they took measures to stop that. Canary Wharf is a good example. Too bad our politicians blow hot air to get elected and then do nothing and then we vote them in again.

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Originally posted by halo20 I MISS YOU TORONTO!

TO-RON-TO misses you too Jon Jon!

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Canary Wharf is a good example.

Interesting that you bring up Canary Wharf, the neo-Brixton. A friend of mine was mugged last week (in Canary Wharf) at knife point. The guy took his wallet, made him take all his money out of the cash machine, and then he foreced him to this apartment tied him down and then took his shit.

That is London.

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LOL shitty!

Here in suburbia the same thing happened to someone down the street 2 weeks ago except they were taken to a cash machine at gun point. After that they let him go..no tie downs..

I guess toronto robbers arent as kinky as the brits LOL

Boourns

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Originally posted by halo20 Interesting that you bring up Canary Wharf, the neo-Brixton. A friend of mine was mugged last week (in Canary Wharf) at knife point.

Dood! When you're here in Toronto remind me to teach you r-jitsu - my own personal martial art. It will help you get out of situations like that.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 LOL shitty! Here in suburbia the same thing happened to someone down the street 2 weeks ago except they were taken to a cash machine at gun point. After that they let him go..no tie downs.. I guess toronto robbers arent as kinky as the brits LOL Boourns

When in that situation, just say NO and bite the bullet

"Give you my money?! F.U., I need it... pull the trigger, biatch!"

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker Dood! When you're here in Toronto remind me to teach you r-jitsu - my own personal martial art. It will help you get out of situations like that.

rj, I've decided I'm not talking to you anymore after that terrifying phone call last week. lol

p.s margs, did you know that Roussy and Canie have a fucking apt on St.Claire?!?! lol

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Originally posted by Crazy Serb just say NO and bite the bullet

Good luck - all the "shaq-fu" in the world isn't going to help you if you do that...

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Originally posted by Jayx1 LOL sure u do! hehehe I know london was starting to go through this years ago but they took measures to stop that. Canary Wharf is a good example. Too bad our politicians blow hot air to get elected and then do nothing and then we vote them in again.

The only reason Canary Wharf ever thrived was because it was so much cheaper for the large banks to operate out their. There's no more room to build in central London (around Bank street), and London used to have laws in place as to how high you can build (although I think they've recently changed this to combat the moves to CW). Not to mention how expensive land in central London is. You take away the banks, and the place would be a hell-hole.

That being said, I used to work in CW and it screems yuppy from the moment you you climb the escalator in the tube station. Its a cool place to work, but I wouldn't want to live there. 10 years ago it hardly existed... the CW developers, who to the best of my knowledge were not affiliated with the city, got lucky when the contract for 1 Canada Square was signed. That essentially made CW what it is today.

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Originally posted by halo20 p.s margs, did you know that Roussy and Canie have a fucking apt on St.Claire?!?! lol

yes, ray has already been there but i have not.

russy is a government worker now.