As you can see i'm a newbie, currently just praticing with different sounds, but I can't seem to get that hihat sound, that goes along with the bassline, that rhythmic sound, do I need a certian sample, effects, delay?? I'm stuck on this one??

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You put the high hat in between every kick. Like this :

x---x---x---x--- Kick
--x---x---x---x- Hat

Whats so difficult?

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Originally posted by echosystm You put the high hat in between every kick. Like this : x---x---x---x--- Kick --x---x---x---x- Hat Whats so difficult?

That's a pretty dull pattern if you don't have any other hats there.

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Originally posted by echosystm You put the high hat in between every kick. Like this : x---x---x---x--- Kick --x---x---x---x- Hat Whats so difficult?

my hihat pattern 5 years ago

search some other than 909 samples, and use 2-3 closed hats in combination of an open one routed to a compressor.

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I had the same problem when I only started producing. It was hard for some reason to get the percussion, beat and bass working together. But its just a matter of time till you get it im sure, everyone gets it eventually
The secret is to use quality samples for starters, the second thing is to use the right effects on them.
The basic pattern is not much of a problem, use two kinds of hats to make it sound more full.

The open hat:
--x- --x- --x- --x-

The closed hat:
xx-x xx-x xx-x xx-x

or something of that sort, just try and experiment with that, add some more elements and samples and try and make up your own patterns.

The effects you should try and add to your samples are basically compression to make your sample sound sharper and more noticeable in the mix.
You can try adding some reverb and delay or even phaser to reach the kind of sound you are looking for, again you must experiment and try it out for yourself.

Here are a few hats samples which I find pretty usufull, they are basic but the quality is decent, feel free to use them as you like:

Open hats:
909 Open HiHat 01.wav
909 Open HiHat 04.wav
909 Open HiHat 07.wav

Closed hats:
01 HHclosed09.wav
01 HHclosed16.wav
01 HHclosed17.wav


Hope that helped somehow

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try closed hi-hats on the fist 2 16th notes, followed by just the open hat like this:
xx-- xx-- xx-- xx-- Closed hat
--X- --X- --X- --X- Open hat
and put a barely perceptible amount of swing in the quantize function, compress a bit, and add a little bit of delay with the length set to 3/16ths, then put a bus or send effect so that the signal so far goes into your mixer, but also has a separate channel that goes through a high-pass eq and to a little tiny bit of distortion. so it goes:


hi-hats-->compression-->delay------------------->mixer
......................................... \/............................^
........................................ hi-pass.....................|
........................................... \/..........................|
......................................overdrive/distortion-------
(hope the drawring comes out ok. the dots just hold the place but the dashes represent the signal flow. additionally, you only want a little bit of the send to show up in the mix, so easy does it.)

Oh ok cool, so that is how they get the effect for the hh, they use compression.

for hh you can also do funky variances like

--X- -X-X --X- -X-X Open HH
X--X ---- X--X ---- Closed HH
-X-- --X- -X-- --X- Quite alternate cymbal
---- X--- ---- X--- Clap or Snare
X--- X--- X--- X--- Shu HH to add character to kick

thanks guys for all your help, I finally figured out this simple problem lol

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