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josh4
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hold on to your hats

Japan on alert after sub scare
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/a...e.ap/index.html

TOKYO, Japan (AP) -- Japan's navy went on alert Wednesday after an unidentified submarine made a brief incursion into the country's southern waters near Okinawa.

Tokyo is trying to determine the origin of the vessel.

The submarine left Japanese waters shortly after it was spotted and a reconnaissance aircraft and destroyer were monitoring its movements, Chief Cabinet Secretary Hiroyuki Hosoda said.

"It's regrettable," Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi told reporters. "It's certainly not a good thing that a submarine of unknown national origin enters our territorial waters."

If the submarine's nationality is identified, Japan will take "necessary steps," Hosada said, without elaborating.

Japan's public broadcaster NHK said defense officials were investigating a possible link between the sub sighting and Chinese military vessels detected recently in Japan's southern waters.

Kyodo News quoted unidentified defense officials as saying that the vessel may be a Chinese nuclear submarine.

A P3C reconnaissance plane confirmed that the submarine had entered Japanese territorial waters near the Sakishima islands in southern Okinawa prefecture, but further details about the vessel had not yet been determined, Hosada said.

Defense chief Yoshinori Ono "issued a maritime alert order," Hosoda said.

Japan's Maritime Self-Defense Forces can order the submarine to surface and identify itself, as well as leave Japanese waters, if it tries to re-enter, Hosoda said.

Defense officials confirmed that two Chinese military vessels -- a submarine rescue vessel and a towing vessel -- were spotted between Friday and Monday in waters 315 kilometers (195 miles) southeast of Japan's Tanegashima island.

That location is about 1,000 kilometers (620 miles) northeast of the spot where the submarine was found Wednesday morning. Officials, however, refused to comment on a possible link between the two incidents.

Japan has been considering ways to boost its maritime defenses after a shoot out with a suspected North Korean spy ship in December 2001.

In that incident, Japanese Coast Guard patrol boats sank the suspected spy ship in a gunbattle off southwestern Japan. The patrol vessels returned fire only after the ship, ordered to stop, opened fire with a rocket and guns.

The Sakishima islands lie in waters between the northeastern tip of Taiwan and Okinawa's main island, some 1,600 kilometers (1,000 miles) south of Tokyo.

In December 2001, a suspected North Korean spy ship sank in the East China Sea after an exchange of fire with Japan's Coast Guard.

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smokeape
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They can always ask the U.S. to send over a subhunter, but even if found, a nK or Chinese sub is not just an open target on the high seas or territorial waters unless it's determined its presence is hostile. There are some other less than lethal measures to run them out, but embarassment from the intruder's nation will probably be the biggest outcome of the event. The sailors are just following orders and don't need to be indiscriminately killed as well.


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Q5echo
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this is funny.

much a'do about nothing

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quote:
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this is funny.

much a'do about nothing


Agree, don't kill the sub crew.


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josh4
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actually i just remembered something. i remember a story like this before about japan. this isnt the first time its happened they have a lot of anonymous sub activity

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Q5echo
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yes. there is a silent war going on under the seas in that region from Vladivostok to the Gulf of Tonkin.

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quote:
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yes. there is a silent war going on under the seas in that region from Vladivostok to the Gulf of Tonkin.

seems like there are a lot of seperate wars going on all over the world

wonder how long before they all become one big war

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