Some may say thats impossible. But when I started messing around with FL Studio 5, i nocticed some very powerfull features. FL Studio only $150.00 , Reason 2.5 $350.00. I say FL Studio 5 is almost as powerfull as Reason, what it needs is more plug-in's, envolopes, a better sound library. I think one day FL Studio 5 will own in the music making world.

Post what you guys think!

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Over 10 years and going strong.

So does having more stuff equal power?

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Well... just think about it. FL Studio is becoming the dominate music making system out there.

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Over 10 years and going strong.

What do you base that claim on, exactly?

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Well its USER FRIENDLY... Reason is more like you have to be like a jenious to use it... FL Studio is not midi sounds anymore its nice, you can hear my new single i did. Its experimental trance just something to have fun with... http://www.dj-coleman.com/Desire.mp3 you can listen to the different effects i used with it etc.

PS I made some of the sounds used.

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Over 10 years and going strong.

No, see, you are making statements based on nothing but your own opinions.

Take me for example. I am far from genius yet I still find Reason a lot easier to use than FL - I just can't get into it at all. But do I draw assumptions based on my own opinions alone? No, that would be silly.

I've heard brilliant stuff (sadly, your track isn't one of them) produced with pretty much any software that exists these days. If you know your stuff then it really doesn't matter what you use because the software/hardware is merely the tool.

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mwhaha. you can be really quite intimidating ya know?

but point taken. i keep having to reiterate my own (self professed) words of wisdom. (ha.). there are rarely any good or bad tools out there, just different ones with different means of achieving essentially the same thing. if you start with reason and find it comfortable to use and fun, then you've got it for life. i just so happened to do just that with floops. some people sit down and invest the time and effort into logic to make it work and if it works for them (and ive heard it work for many people) then good for you. and them.

this is different for every person but ultimately, it all boils down to working with tools that you feel are natural and which make sense and which allow you to get down to the task at hand - making sweet fucking music. it doesnt matter what the tools are and one tool is rarely 100% 'better' than another. although if you cannot get satisfying results using one tool its easy to blame that tool for your bad workmanship. ahhh, dont get me started on workmanship! needless to say, keep practicing. theres always room for improvement, even with tools you consider 'bad.'

i'm a big fl fan myself... but i think the claims you put for fl don't have much backing to it...

personally, i like fruity b/c it is easy to use, vst support, stability, and b/c every parameter you can think of can be automated, with a lot more features than meets the eye (most fl bashers take a look at fl on the surface and haven't even discovered 1/4 of all the features it has)

However, i DONT like most of the fruity synths (i haven't used sytrus or any of the newer stuff past version 4 though so i could be wrong) and I think vst's are the way to go with the fruit..

fl is a great sequencer... you just need to know how to use it to its potential...

i know that it's very capable of pumping up very professional tracks, but it's not what u use as derivative said... but it's how you use it...

programs IMO only have about 10% to do with the quality of the tracks.. the rest of the 90% comes from the producer itself

the trouble with comparing FL to Reason is that Reason is meant to emulate a classic "rack-based" production studio. FL Studio is meant to emulate a modern computer-based production app. YOu don't have full console-esk mixing/routing in Reason, like you can do with FL. FL supports VSTs but Reason has powerful enough synths in itself.

But the original poster has a point in that FL can get more powerful. THe only means tho that you can judge ppower for the app, is how well it deals with more voices at once. Whichever app has better CPU usage algorithms, makes it better by being more efficient.
For the price, FL is a better buy than Reason, but you'll end up paying for some quality VSTs.... which will prolly surpass the price of Reason.

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ok we should start a thread and vote get it settled......hmm im gonna do that now

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come on, who gives a shit, just try both and use the one you prefer

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come on, who gives a shit, just try both and use the one you prefer

thank god there are people like you in the world who just see SENSE.

i also seriously doubt sgtfoo that one host is significantly more efficient than another at number crunching tonnes of simultaneous voices. at the end of the day, if you add 6 zetas in floops or logic or cubase or an equivilant cpu hog of a synth in reason, it will grind your PC into DUST.

besides efficiency and cpu load arent that much of a factor when you realise that all computer producers are bound to a greater or lesser extent by cpu load. the more cpu you have free, the more likely you are to waste it with inefficient working practice. thats why i get into the habit of creating all my synths and perc loops seperately then bouncing them all down and reassembling them again afterwards in wav loops. if you do that from the start thats naturally the most efficient way of building up a tune. it effectively taking the cpu load you have at a given stage in your track and effectively resetting it back to zero. there are disadvantages to it that make modifying layers less immediate, slightly more of a hassle. but it beats watching your PC die and take 2 minutes to acknowledge you have your mouse plugged in under the strain of multiple effects and VSTis.