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dj jasonF
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beatmatching on 1210's

well i have my decks for 6 months now and i can mix pretty good... but there is one thing i cant do... when in the middle of a transision beats start to drift and i need to slow down one deck (not speed up the other one cuz of the pitch). i tried putting my finger on the vinyl or the label but doesnt seem to work... i also tried holding the thing in the middle of the platter holding it with my fingers. it works some times but it takes time and it doesnt work if my fingers are sweting. and i cant do it with the pitch control when i know its a slight push to make the mix perfect
any opinions and other ways to do it will be helpfull

thanx

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basd
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Re: beatmatching on 1210's

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i tried putting my finger on the vinyl or the label but doesnt seem to work...

Why not? That suits me best, especially slowing down a record very briefly by touching its edge. Maybe you should try and actually exert (?) some pressure on the vinyl..


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Sunnyside
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Try not to touch the vinyl/platter while you're in the mix - it sounds awful.

Simply move the pitch down briefly, and then quickly move it back to where it was before (try using your thumbnail as a sort of marker). The same if you need to speed it up - voila, no more faffing about with touching the vinyl.

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Nemesis44
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quote:
Originally posted by Sunnyside
Try not to touch the vinyl/platter while you're in the mix - it sounds awful.

Simply move the pitch down briefly, and then quickly move it back to where it was before (try using your thumbnail as a sort of marker). The same if you need to speed it up - voila, no more faffing about with touching the vinyl.


It is a personal thing, but I have to agree with you as this is my prefered method also (minus the marking with the thumb).
Just practice up on it and this is probably the best and least noticable method.

Cheers
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Sunnyside
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I don't use my thumbnail anymore, but it was very handy when I was learning how to pitch-mix.

Of course, the nearer you can get them beat-matched in the first place, the smaller the amount you need to move the pitch to correct it!

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i use the platter usually, but when im on the technics deck i use the pitch fader because the platter is too bumpy to get a smooth action.


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Sunnyside
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Regardless of the deck you are using, pitch-mixing will always be a more accurate way to adjust the speed of a record during the mix, no matter how careful your hand/finger is.

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Sunnyside
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And what do you mean when you say, "bumpy"?! Do you mean the dots on the side of the platter? Are they not a standard feature of all platters on all decks so you can calibrate them?

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DannyO
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quote:
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And what do you mean when you say, "bumpy"?! Do you mean the dots on the side of the platter? Are they not a standard feature of all platters on all decks so you can calibrate them?


Nope, Vestax, Numark, Gemini now have something esle, like lines or pits.

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quote:
Originally posted by Sunnyside
Regardless of the deck you are using, pitch-mixing will always be a more accurate way to adjust the speed of a record during the mix, no matter how careful your hand/finger is.


i disagree, it all depends on what you are used to, and whether the platter is bumpy or not. platter designs have changed on a lot of decks, to make platter usage much easier and smoother.


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Sunnyside
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Really? I've not used anything other that Technics 1210s!

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quote:
Originally posted by tu_face
i disagree, it all depends on what you are used to, and whether the platter is bumpy or not. platter designs have changed on a lot of decks, to make platter usage much easier and smoother.


No chance mate - you may have gotten good at using the platter (I'm not disputing that), but you finger/hand will never be as accurate as the pitch control. Your hand is subject to a million and one variables - the pitch control is not.

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