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Subey
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You be the Judge

I got this idea from watching Stuck on You.

Premise:
Conjoined twins, one is accused and convicted of attempted murder. The other twin is completely innocent.

If the person was not conjoined they would be sentenced to 20 years in jail in a medium security prison.

Question:
What sentence do you give?


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.montecarlo.
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Sending an innocent person to jail is far worse than letting a guilty person free...

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Tranceporter99
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Re: You be the Judge

quote:
Originally posted by Subey
I got this idea from watching Stuck on You.

Premise:
Conjoined twins, one is accused and convicted of attempted murder. The other twin is completely innocent.

If the person was not conjoined they would be sentenced to 20 years in jail in a medium security prison.

Question:
What sentence do you give?


well if the one that didnt do it didnt have the motor functions of tbe body, which is obvious considering he didnt kill the person, then he couldnt stop the person from doing it, so he has nothing to worry about.


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Krypton
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they're handicapped, give them a break.


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hope they're not in texas

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jonSun
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This would never happen.


But if it did, i'd say give whatever the law demands. The innocent one is an accesory to murder.


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.montecarlo.
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quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
The innocent one is an accesory to murder.


That doesn't make sense... if someone is deemed "completely innocent", how can they be guilty at the same time?

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jonSun
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quote:
Originally posted by .montecarlo.
That doesn't make sense... if someone is deemed "completely innocent", how can they be guilty at the same time?


Im saying the one he said was "innocent". He was at the scene & arrived & left with the culprit.


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Subey
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I will clarify details because people are making odd assumptions.

Imagine 2 conjoined twins who are attached at the hip. They are sharing a liver. If they were seperated, there is a 50% chance that either would die during the operation.

Both are fully ambulatory.

One is quite upset at society because of the treatment they receive in public ( staring, comments etc.) so secretly (without the other ones knowledge ) he decides that he will "stab" the next person who makes a negative comment towards them to them a lesson.

The knife is a slightly larger than normal "pocket" knife that many people carry not as a weapon but as part of a swiss army knife for general uses, so the "good" twin doesn't suspect the knife is for anything bad.

One day some guy "says you freaks get back to the zoo", so the "bad" twin stabs him twice in the chest before the "good" twin can stop him from doing anymore.

A criminal case is held and the "bad" twin is convicted. The "good" twin is considered a hero because he stopped the "bad" twin before he could kill the other person.

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While this situation might not come up, the point of the exercise isn't to point that out, but rather to give you the intellectual exercise of trying to punish someone reasonably without punishing someone that is innocent.
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So now as judge it falls upon you to come up with some sort of a punishment (nothing isn't an answer) that will work for everyone involved (i.e. society at large, the good twin, the bad twin etc.)


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quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
Im saying the one he said was "innocent". He was at the scene & arrived & left with the culprit.


In this particular case, the innocent twin has already been deemed innocent, making the relevant issue whether or not to imprison the innocent twin for the sake of punishing the guilty twin. Furthermore, to meet the criteria for an accomplice, the innocent twin would have to be found as:

(a) an accessory: a person who becomes equally guilty in the crime of another by knowingly and voluntarily aiding the criminal prior to or after the crime, or

(b) an abettor: a person who becomes equally guilty in the crime of another by knowingly and voluntarily aiding the criminal during the act itself.

Neither of which are implicit in being a conjoined twin, nor were they implied by Subey's post. Therefore, the points stands that the relevant issue is: whether or not to imprison the innocent twin for the sake of punishing the guilty twin.

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jonSun
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After seeing the whole (unreal) senario. I just say put em in the circus for life.


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Did the good twin ring the police?

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