I have never used BPM counters before to mix as my mixer doesnt have them. My beatmatching skill isnt perfect yet but I would like to start mixing in more records in my sets..like 1 every 2 mintues. I am performing in a club that has a DMJ 600 and since it has BPM counters, I was wondering to what extent I could rely on those to beatmatch faster. Like once the BPMs are equal on the reader, do u stil have to make minor adjustments with the pitch?

Train your ear grass hoppa and BPM counter usless.

I had a DJm for a few months and as far as I can remember the BPM counter was extremely precise. i never used it, but I remember comparing the BPM readout to the bpm readout of my cdj1000 and they were 100% in sync.

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THEY ARE NOT PRETTY PRECISE!!!

they are temperamental bastards, they take ages to FIND the bpm, then decides to change on its own after 4 seconds to something completely wrong.

when its right, its useful for effects, but not useful at all for mixing (as with any other beat counter). at the end of the day, it only goes to 1 whole BPM, many more small movements will be required to get it beatmatched anyway. you will honestly do it quicker using your ears, instead of waiting for the thing to stop flashing and to get it right.

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Originally posted by tu_face THEY ARE NOT PRETTY PRECISE!!! they are temperamental bastards, they take ages to FIND the bpm, then decides to change on its own after 4 seconds to something completely wrong. when its right, its useful for effects, but not useful at all for mixing (as with any other beat counter). at the end of the day, it only goes to 1 whole BPM, many more small movements will be required to get it beatmatched anyway. you will honestly do it quicker using your ears, instead of waiting for the thing to stop flashing and to get it right.

yup, they often jump from 140 to 176 or summay equally daft during the break + thus rendering the bpm linked fx useless unless you know the approx setting by ear

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Useful if you are matching effects that need a bpm but other than that.
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Originally posted by zizack ..the bpm readout of my cdj1000 and they were 100% in sync.

Of course it was... they are made by the same company, and thus... use the same logic in computing the BPM.

They are pretty close, but use it more of as a range not as the exact bpm, you cant mix by just looking at the numbers :/, try rather by ear then if you are within a few half beats then should be able to line it up or vise versa

its more of a guide but shouldnt be followed to down to the wire.

i trust my ear over the numbers

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Originally posted by onceler Of course it was... they are made by the same company, and thus... use the same logic in computing the BPM.

not always totally true. the bpm counter in an efx500 seems to work a lot better than the one in a djm600, even though i would have thought they were the same unit.

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It is very precise, I also remember using it with 2 cdj-800's and they were the same perfectly sync. But dont use the bpm counter cover it up, what will you do if you get invited to play and all they have are turntables or cd players without bpm counter or no bpm on a mixer?

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Originally posted by onceler Of course it was... they are made by the same company, and thus... use the same logic in computing the BPM.

I think that matters too. On my Numark axis9 i can get a bpm reading of 125.2 or something like that, while the same track on my pioneer dmp-555 will read 93 bpm or something totally different. Their readouts are almost never simular.

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Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. He who laughs last thinks slowest!

the beat counter on the axis9 is amazing (for a beat counter).. you can tell it which peaks it needs to follow.

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