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töbias
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How do you avoid music you make personally sounding cheap?

Any ideas?


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I think that is the ultimate question in music production isn't it?

Practice makes perfect....... possibly.

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im really confused about the question...

Seb.


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UphoricNitemare
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Spend some time on it? layer? honestly i don't know what you want from me.


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yeah in the past weeks i found out its all about layering, layer, layer, layer, layer, layer


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Sean Walsh
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This is essentially the same question that pops up here 500 times a year in various different threads: "how do you achieve that 'professional' sound?"

The answer:
1) Get good samples.
2) Get good synth sounds.
3) Learn how to mix them together properly.
4) Have a good idea of what you're trying to do in the first place (solid melodies, some wicked stabs, etc).
5) Do something creative to keep people interested (holden'esque ripped off reverb claps do not count).

The big emphasis falls on #3, and if you want to know how to do that, just practice a lot.


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Get someone else to do it for you. Then get them to teach you.


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Layers get as many as possible before it sounds unfilled etc

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hard work, good ideas, patience and luck...

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Derivative
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How do you avoid music you make personally sounding cheap?


you cant. if you are writing a tune and a week after you come up with a riff you start thinking 'my god - this is the cheesiest thing ive ever written' you chuck it and hope the world never gets the chance to see it.

if you write a song and a month later you still like the riff and build and the way it flows you keep it. maybe ramp it up a bit. until you fuck it up with cheese. then you throw that away too.

ultimately its a process of retaining the stuff that consistantly works and binning the rest. unless you have no aversion to selling cheap cheesy crap in your name...

theres no winning formula. you keep the stuff that works. and you keep building on it. you bin the stuff that doesnt. repeat. ad nauseum. law of averages says you will eventually write a tune you are somewhat satisfied with and which doesnt sound stale in under a week.

however sod's law says you'll hate inside of 2.

thats your cue to go back to the drawing board.

usually if can write a song and not hate it after 2 weeks it will have past the first test (the 2 week test i call it) and ill either continue it or sideline it for a bit and continue it some other time or retain some part of it. if it fails the 2 week test its shit. any song that starts to sound crap after only 2 weeks doesnt deserve to be pressed onto acetate or burned to cd. it must be purged...

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töbias
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Registered: Sep 2004
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Okay, one part of my question relates to how much currently popular edm has this kind of turbine like energy through the midrange of the track where the sound varies from the start of the 4 beat count to the end.

Much older music is quite flat through the midrange and this is changing, and much amatuer music does not have this effect.


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quote:
Originally posted by Derivative
you cant. if you are writing a tune and a week after you come up with a riff you start thinking 'my god - this is the cheesiest thing ive ever written' you chuck it and hope the world never gets the chance to see it.

if you write a song and a month later you still like the riff and build and the way it flows you keep it. maybe ramp it up a bit. until you fuck it up with cheese. then you throw that away too.

ultimately its a process of retaining the stuff that consistantly works and binning the rest. unless you have no aversion to selling cheap cheesy crap in your name...

theres no winning formula. you keep the stuff that works. and you keep building on it. you bin the stuff that doesnt. repeat. ad nauseum. law of averages says you will eventually write a tune you are somewhat satisfied with and which doesnt sound stale in under a week.

however sod's law says you'll hate inside of 2.

thats your cue to go back to the drawing board.

usually if can write a song and not hate it after 2 weeks it will have past the first test (the 2 week test i call it) and ill either continue it or sideline it for a bit and continue it some other time or retain some part of it. if it fails the 2 week test its shit. any song that starts to sound crap after only 2 weeks doesnt deserve to be pressed onto acetate or burned to cd. it must be purged...


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