Alright i have no equipment and no software...but for the moment im just studying alot of this shit...how would i figure out the bpms i mean is there a program or do i just listen...i sounds pretty impossible (for starters) to figure out the bpms of songs without learning how to do it first dont you think

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take your watch.
look at the seconds hand.
put on a song.
when the seconds hand hits 12, start counting the beats of the song.
wait 15 seconds.
multiply that by 4.
thats the BPM.


Why are you so worried about BPM?

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Just take a guess.

There are plenty of programs that calculate the bpm. One of them is Traktor. I think you can get a demo version for free.

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Originally posted by CosmoKid Why are you so worried about BPM?

+1?

i used to think knowing the BPM of my tracks would unlock some hidden talent i had...

peh

turns out knowing the BPM just told me how many kicks per min the track was playing at 0% pitch... fat lot of help it was...

if you want some usefull information check out the thread on Harmonic mixing, bpms are just a bunch of numbers that as soon as you learn you move on to the next thing and forget anyways resulting in perfectly good mixing/learning time blown away

Harmonics thread
^Gold mine right there

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Originally posted by RickyM Next thread - trance for listening to when you are halfway down the stairs in your house...

A lot of mixers will do it for you. Or search on google for "bpm counter", you'll find tons of javascript and/or VB programs that will do it. Or any of the other things anyone else has said.

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^ true.. you can always buy a mixer that has a built in BPM counter or my an external counter, i think they have one that you can plug you headphones to and it gives you the bpm of the chane you're listening to...


even still, alot of bpm counters are in accurate anyways and in no way do they aid your mixing... unless you do have a good one and you want to fine tune a mix within a tenth of a beat or whatever....

theres a couple threads regarding BPM counters, look it up... to save you some perfectly good time though they arent all they're made out to be

ask anyone here who owns one, most if not all dont use them and have them covered

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Originally posted by RickyM Next thread - trance for listening to when you are halfway down the stairs in your house...

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Originally posted by Exodus17 ask anyone here who owns one, most if not all dont use them and have them covered

yeah, i don't actually cover mine (i have a denon DNX-1500). I use it just as a very general guide to where my set is, or where a track is if it's a new one. Sometimes it's hard for me to tell if i'm around 125 or arond 130 BPM...or in trance's case if it's around 135 or around 140, mainly if i'm mixing tracks i don't know very well. But for the most part I don't use them...i never had them until I got this mixer a little under a year ago.

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Last edited by IntegraR0064 on Mar-03-2005 at 22:25

Dont use bpm counters!

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Originally posted by Mike123 Dont use bpm counters!

+1

I think its important to know your BPM is you're going to be doing harmonic mixing. You don't want to pull a track that is in the same key or a complimentary key and when you get it pitched up the key has changed because of the difference in pitch. It doesn't help you mix though or beatmatch, thats what your ears are for. It helps me quite a lot in set programming.

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