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madhattared
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Brooklyn
Riaa

I just found out one of my good friends is getting sued buy the RIAA. They subpoenaed a list of IP addresses from RPI that were sharing mp3's on the i2hub p2p software. apparently the list is about 3000 people long, however only 25 are being sued. One of my buddies is one of the unlucky 25.

I think this is a load of crap. College kids are poor. we don't have any money to spend on music and i don't think its any differnt from recording tunes off the radio. yeah i'm all for supporting the artists, but is the RIAA really looking out for them or just looking to cover their ass and make some money? the artist really doesn't get that much on their own cd sales anyway but thats besides the point.

They're suing him over 4 files. he had alot more shared but they apparently only have issues with 4 of them. There were also students on the network that were sharing far bigger collections, in the range of 100's of GB. his was about 15GB. they should have gone after the people with the biggest collections but they said they chose the ip's at "random". kicker is he was online in his girl friends apartment when they scanned the network for shares. He lives off campus and doesn't have his computer attached to the RPI network

Apparently the RIAA has access to the i2 network around the country because Warner Brothers is one of the sponsors for the high speed intercollege network. So I get it lets build a high speed multimillion dollar network for the purpose of sending text over it. yeah not music or video, thats not allowed. but send whatever "information" you want over it.

there's a bunch of information about it here about the RPI and Columbia kids that are being sued.

im curious to what you guys think.


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XION
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Registered: Aug 2003
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My friend in College said that people using such sharing mp3 software weren't allowed and that the school montiored such programs.

Btw what songs did he get in trouble for sharing

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madhattared
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Brooklyn

he doesn't know which particular files it was just the fact that there were 4 of them. the rpi network will pretty much let you run most applications so long as they don't chew up ports below 1024. if you start transfering more then a couple gig a day on any of them they'll shut your connection down. otherwise its pretty nonrestrictive


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Thero40
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Registered: Jul 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by madhattared
if you start transfering more then a couple gig a day on any of them they'll shut your connection down. otherwise its pretty nonrestrictive


I had to deal with stupid ass rule last year at Rutgers dorms

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Coup
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Registered: May 2001
Location: England, UK

what do they want from him? prison sentence? fine?

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madhattared
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Brooklyn

quote:
Originally posted by Coup
what do they want from him? prison sentence? fine?

i'm pretty sure just a fine, he finds out in a couple weeks in court.


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fr0st
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Brooklyn NY
Re: Riaa

quote:
Originally posted by madhattared
I just found out one of my good friends is getting sued buy the RIAA. They subpoenaed a list of IP addresses from RPI that were sharing mp3's on the i2hub p2p software. apparently the list is about 3000 people long, however only 25 are being sued. One of my buddies is one of the unlucky 25.

I think this is a load of crap. College kids are poor. we don't have any money to spend on music and i don't think its any differnt from recording tunes off the radio. yeah i'm all for supporting the artists, but is the RIAA really looking out for them or just looking to cover their ass and make some money? the artist really doesn't get that much on their own cd sales anyway but thats besides the point.

They're suing him over 4 files. he had alot more shared but they apparently only have issues with 4 of them. There were also students on the network that were sharing far bigger collections, in the range of 100's of GB. his was about 15GB. they should have gone after the people with the biggest collections but they said they chose the ip's at "random". kicker is he was online in his girl friends apartment when they scanned the network for shares. He lives off campus and doesn't have his computer attached to the RPI network

Apparently the RIAA has access to the i2 network around the country because Warner Brothers is one of the sponsors for the high speed intercollege network. So I get it lets build a high speed multimillion dollar network for the purpose of sending text over it. yeah not music or video, thats not allowed. but send whatever "information" you want over it.

there's a bunch of information about it here about the RPI and Columbia kids that are being sued.

im curious to what you guys think.


Well im against mp3's for one thing... People did just fine 30 years ago, going to a record store to discover new music.. Soo the line of shit people give "I wouldnt have discovered edm" is bullshit... And i think the riaa has full rights to prosecute people who break agreements or steal music. And in the end its not the top people who are hurt but the artist and the fans...


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Highmay
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Registered: Sep 2002
Location: Studio Cinecitta

you know it's illegal, you know it's not right, you know organizations are out to get the biggest violators...but when it's one of your buddies who just happens to get caught and singled out, it's all bullshit...


grow the fuck up, kid...

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EnigmaT
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Long Island, NY

What were the 4 tracks he was singled out for? Was it electronic music, or was he nailed for something more mainstream?


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holycow24
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Registered: Feb 2003
Location: San Francisco / NJ
Re: Re: Riaa

quote:
Originally posted by fr0st
Well im against mp3's for one thing... People did just fine 30 years ago, going to a record store to discover new music.. Soo the line of shit people give "I wouldnt have discovered edm" is bullshit... And i think the riaa has full rights to prosecute people who break agreements or steal music. And in the end its not the top people who are hurt but the artist and the fans...


actually, i disagree.
record stores never did it for me in the 90s.
it was only after i got a computer & audio players (before mp3, i used real audio, heh) that i really was able to find the stuff i love... a lot of it isn't even released in the US, or if it is, is easier to find on vinyl than CD - and i didn't have a record player till about a year ago. there are so many artists and songs i would never have known about if it weren't for file sharing, and since discovering them i've either supported them by going to a concert (which makes the artist WAY more money than CD sales, by the way) or by buying a CD/record/etc.

also, it's easy to find stuff in big cities like NYC, yes. but in farmland south jersey, all we had were places like sam goody. their EDM section sucked.

i do think it's better to discover stuff through your friends than p2p networks tho.... i have had better success that way.

i also think the RIAA and the laws are wrong. it's so stupid to prosecute these people for sharing mp3s, just like it's so stupid to sue people for using samples of other people's music in their own. up until recordings came along, composers used to quote each other all the time in their music. ever since the recording industry became an industry, the US laws have gotten tighter and tighter just so people can suck as much money out of each other as possible. ick.

just because it's the law doesn't make it right. personally, i think we should try to change the crazy copyright laws. i'm hoping to someday have enough money, power, and clear cut sketches of better-formed laws to do that.

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verndogs
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Registered: Jan 2004
Location: Sports Discussion Forum - NYC

personally, I think that the RIAA don't give the artists their fare share of the pie, so fuck them

I haven't bought myself a RIAA affiliated CD since 1998 and plan to keep it that way.


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madhattared
Impeach.



Registered: Jun 2004
Location: Brooklyn

he doesn't know which are the four tracks on his computer they are complaining about.

quote:
Originally posted by Highmay
you know it's illegal, you know it's not right, you know organizations are out to get the biggest violators...but when it's one of your buddies who just happens to get caught and singled out, it's all bullshit...


grow the fuck up, kid...



yes mom i need to grow up. Way to read. I said he wasn't a big violater. There are plenty of other kids on campus that were sharing mp3 collections that were atleast 10x bigger then his.

I never said I shared anything either. I run linux / unix and the file sharing programs on them kinda blow. So I don't really see the point. but I do support the motion of distrubiting good music for the sake of buying what you like.

And you mean to tell me you don't have one single illegal mp3 on your computer? If you're going to be a hypocrite work on how you develope your arguments.


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In the beginning there was Jack. And Jack had a groove. And from this groove came the groove of all grooves. And while one day viciously throwing down on his box Jack boldly declared "Let there be house!" And house music was born. I am the creator and this is my house and in my house there is only house music. But I am not so selfish because once you enter my house it then becomes our house and our house music and you see no one man owns house because house music is a universal language spoke and understood by all. You see, house is a feeling that no one can understand really unless you're deep into the vibe of house. House is an uncontrollable desire to jack your body and as I told you before this is our house and our house music. In every house you understand, there is a keeper and in this house the keeper is Jack.

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