I did a search and came up with nothing, so I don't know if anyone talked about this before. Anyway, I was listening to the Electric Light Orchestra album "Time" (INCREDIBLE!) and there is a song called Another Heart Breaks. The melody from that song was used in Goldenscan - Sunrise. I don't have a copy of Sunrise so I don't know if Goldenscan credited ELO. Hear it for yourself:

Windows Media: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/c...0800588-1526233

Real Audio: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/c...0800588-1526233

That's definitely the same melody, good job!

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Originally posted by DC- That's definitely the same melody, good job!

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yeah like i posted on the other board..

it's funny to listen to an EDM track and then later hear the original song in it's classic 70's rock glory or 80's prog-rock goodness!

case in point: Listen to Steve Winwood's - Valerie and then listen to Eric Prydz - Call on Me..


coincedence? i hope Winwood got some royalties for this...

yeah nice find man. i'm sure there is more stuff like this then we know hehehe. but yeah, i wonder if they would give E.L.O. credit for the melody or not...

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Originally posted by Floorfiller yeah nice find man. i'm sure there is more stuff like this then we know hehehe. but yeah, i wonder if they would give E.L.O. credit for the melody or not...

I've always wondered that myself.. you know how tracks have movie quotes (except for the fairly obvious movies like The Matrix), how many tracks actually give credit to the movie? For instance i have Jam X & De Leon - Can U Dig It 12", yet there is nothing that mentions the right to use the sample from the movie The Warriors.

and in this case, using obscure samples from old songs, do they have to pay royalties? I mean i suppose if ELO found out they could sue...

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Originally posted by Mebot I've always wondered that myself.. you know how tracks have movie quotes (except for the fairly obvious movies like The Matrix), how many tracks actually give credit to the movie? For instance i have Jam X & De Leon - Can U Dig It 12", yet there is nothing that mentions the right to use the sample from the movie The Warriors. and in this case, using obscure samples from old songs, do they have to pay royalties? I mean i suppose if ELO found out they could sue...

they probably could sue if they really wanted to. but i guess it would really just come down to the court. you can sample as long as its not a substantial part of the song without consequence, but i would assume something like a melody would be grounds for a lawsuit hehe.

i dunno though...maybe the song is so different from the original that they don't need to license it

or maybe they have who knows...

my guess would be that royalties from EDM tunes aren't that great to begin with...and perhaps the cost of going to court is enough to make it not really worth the time and effort...

you know how after a certain number of years, things become Public Domain...

i can't recall any specific things, but like copyrights to names, products and stuff can become free.

i think in the world of literature or arts, after so many years after the death of the artist, the copyright to the material is given up..


so what i'm getting at here is, could ELO have had their tracks copyrighted for a certain number of years and then never regained the rights? or have had them sold to someone else who freely distributed them?

hehe kinda reminds me of how all the Beatles stuff was going up for sale because it was at the end of the copyright term, and Paul McCartney got outbid by Michael Jackson!

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Originally posted by Mebot you know how after a certain number of years, things become Public Domain... i can't recall any specific things, but like copyrights to names, products and stuff can become free. i think in the world of literature or arts, after so many years after the death of the artist, the copyright to the material is given up.. so what i'm getting at here is, could ELO have had their tracks copyrighted for a certain number of years and then never regained the rights? or have had them sold to someone else who freely distributed them? hehe kinda reminds me of how all the Beatles stuff was going up for sale because it was at the end of the copyright term, and Paul McCartney got outbid by Michael Jackson!

i'm pretty sure that the copyright to material like that is publically available 75 years after the artists death or something like that. so stuff by the beatles or E.L.O. would still be under copyright.

now, classical music on the other hand...i wouldn't think that those things would need permission for anymore as its been well over the time limit...i dunno though...so perhaps tunes that use classical music melodies wouldn't need to license them...

well whatever the case may be, my head still 'asplode

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Originally posted by Mebot yeah like i posted on the other board.. it's funny to listen to an EDM track and then later hear the original song in it's classic 70's rock glory or 80's prog-rock goodness! case in point: Listen to Steve Winwood's - Valerie and then listen to Eric Prydz - Call on Me.. coincedence? i hope Winwood got some royalties for this...

I would sure hope so, since it's well known Winwood did the vocals for Call On Me.