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Originally posted by Spacey Orange because they're in Iraq.

what the bloody hell is that supposed to mean? It's true that this isn't the military of our fathers and grandfathers, but it's about time the national guard do something for a change. and there are plenty of them around.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange because they're in Iraq.

the Mississippi Army National Guard alone is over 12,000 strong and is one of the most well funded and equipped Guard detachments of any state.

4500 personel from Miss. ARNG and ANG were deployed in 2004.

you're an idiot.

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Originally posted by Q5echo you're an idiot.

and you have a stick up your ass

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Originally posted by josh4 and you have a stick up your ass

lighten up people

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange lighten up people

the would have been more appropriate

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Originally posted by josh4 the would have been more appropriate

now who's got the stick up their arse?

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange because they're in Iraq.

Well this complaint isn't too far off the mark, especially now that things have gotten substantially worse. Some thoughts to ponder:

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In fiscal year 2006, the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is bracing for a record $71.2 million reduction in federal funding…The cuts mean major hurricane and flood protection projects will not be awarded to local engineering firms. Also, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane has been shelved for now. [snip] Landrieu said the Bush administration is not making Corps of Engineers funding a priority. “I think it’s extremely shortsighted,” Landrieu said. “When the Corps of Engineers’ budget is cut, Louisiana bleeds. These projects are literally life-and-death projects to the people of south Louisiana.” http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/rele...20050828-1.html

Bush tells hurricane states they're on their own:

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Some six-thousand National Guard personnel from Louisiana and Mississippi who would otherwise be available to help deal with the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina are in Iraq. Even so, Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said the states have adequate National Guard units to handle the hurricane needs. He said about 6,500 National Guard troops were available in Louisiana, about 7,000 in Mississippi, nearly 10,000 in Alabama and about 8,200 in Florida.

Interesting contrast to his father sending some 25,000 NG troops down for Hurrican Andrew:

http://www.army.mil/cmh-pg/books/DAHSUM/1992/ch03.htm

Sending amphibious vehicles to Iraq - that's a watercraft being sent to a fucking desert, right?:

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With tracks instead of wheels, the vehicle is designed to be dropped from ships for coastal assaults, then move through surf at a speed of 6 mph. It cruises on land at 20 mph to 30 mph. But its biggest drawback in Iraq, analysts said, is that because it must be able to stay afloat, its armor plating is lighter than that in heavier vehicles used by the Army. http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/03/iraq.vehicle.ap/

Seems quite useful there, huh? Well I wonder where it might also be useful? Where else right now would be a spot full of water where these crafts would sure come in handy?

This doesn't help either:

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JACKSON BARRACKS -- When members of the Louisiana National Guard left for Iraq in October, they took a lot equipment with them. Dozens of high water vehicles, humvees, refuelers and generators are now abroad, and in the event of a major natural disaster that, could be a problem. "The National Guard needs that equipment back home to support the homeland security mission," said Lt. Colonel Pete Schneider with the LA National Guard. http://abc26.trb.com/news/natguard0...oll=wgno-news-1

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ponder this genius. the Army Corps of Engineers had over 30 years to figure out how to keep New Orleans from flooding since the last CAT 5.

fiscal 2006? too lttle, too late IMO.

in addition to the thousands of Guard troops. eight ships of the mightiest Navy ever devised are on there way, including the U.S.S. Bataan. the U.S.N.S. Comfort is being considered.


but don't let that stop you from jumping on Opus's hate-Bush propaganda wagon.

Last edited by Q5echo on Aug-31-2005 at 09:24

from the L.A. Times

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A Category 4 or Category 5 storm, geologists long theorized, would exploit the eroding Louisiana coastline and the gradual settling of the city's earthen foundation, and compromise the more than 500 miles of levees and floodwalls holding back the river and lake. Armed with computer models, they predicted that hundreds of years of engineering would make little difference. http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...-home-headlines

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Pentagon Coordinating Katrina Response Aug 31 10:51 AM US/Eastern By LOLITA C. BALDOR Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON From Navy ships and Army helicopters to the USNS Comfort hospital ship, the Pentagon is mobilizing possibly an unprecedented rescue-and- relief mission for areas devastated by Hurricane Katrina. Largely coordinated by the U.S. Northern Command, all of the military services are participating in what many say is the largest domestic disaster relief effort in years. The military is mainly providing search and rescue, medical help and supplies in support of the Federal Emergency Management Agency and the Gulf Coast states of Louisiana, Mississippi and Alabama. Wednesday morning, four Navy ships loaded with supplies _ ranging from food and water to soap and medical supplies _ were preparing to leave Virginia, and expect to arrive in the Gulf by the weekend, according to the Navy. In addition, the hospital ship USNS Comforf was leaving Baltimore en route to the Gulf region and eight swift water rescue teams from California were on the way to Lafayette, La., to help pull stranded residents from their flooded homes and neighborhoods. The Army and Air Force were also providing search and rescue helicopters, and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers was organizing what will be one of their largest response efforts in recent memory.