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Chimp Genome Mapped. We're 10 Times Closer to Chimps Than Rats are to Mice

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Chimp genome mapped out
96% of gene material matches humans'; differences may shed light on diseases

By Peter Gorner
Tribune science reporter
Published September 1, 2005

Humans and chimpanzees share 96 percent of the same genetic material yet are profoundly different creatures, a mystery scientists hope to begin to unravel with Wednesday's announcement that the genes of humanity's closest cousin have been cataloged.

Publication of the complete chimp genome, marked by a celebratory issue of the journal Nature, is viewed by scientists as a landmark event that will lead to a better understanding of how the human genome has evolved and to insight on diseases that people get but chimpanzees rarely suffer, including cancer and Alzheimer's.

It long has been speculated that humans and chimps diverged from a common ancestor 6 million to 7 million years ago, a relative eye-blink in evolutionary terms. Their genes are quite similar, as are certain behaviors, posing a direct challenge to humans' uniqueness.

"Humanity's special place in the cosmos is one of abandoned claims and moving goalposts," primatologist Frans B.M. de Waal wrote in Nature, citing 40 years of studies showing that humans are not the only animals who hold close family bonds, play power politics and form alliances, make and use tools, or engage in warfare.

The scientific value of the chimp genome, researchers said, lies in the subtle differences. Data are now at hand that can be used to figure out what makes us human, they said.

`Narrows the search'

"This genomic comparison dramatically narrows the search for the key biological differences between the species," said the study's senior author, Dr. Robert Waterston, chair of genome sciences at the University of Washington School of Medicine in Seattle.

Nature asked Wen-Hsiung Li, a pioneering genetic evolutionist at the University of Chicago, to write a commentary on the work.

"Because the genomes are huge--3 billion base pairs of DNA--the differences in molecular terms are quite a lot," Li said. "Most of them probably will not be biologically significant, but some may be crucial. Our task now is to identify those that are meaningful and prove it in the laboratory."

Comparison of the human and chimp genomes reveals that their genetic sequences are directly comparable over 96 percent of their lengths, and these regions are 99 percent identical.

Out of the 3 billion base pairs of DNA in each genome, about 35 million differ, of which as many as 3 million may lie in crucial protein-coding genes.

The number of genetic differences between a human and a chimp is about 60 times less than that between a human and a mouse and about 10 times less than between a mouse and a rat--but it is about 10 times more than between any two humans.

Sixty-seven geneticists formed the Chimpanzee Sequencing and Analysis Consortium and share authorship of the main Nature paper.

Most of the work of sequencing and the assembling the chimp genome was done at the Broad Institute of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and Harvard University and the Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis. More work was done at U.S. institutions and others in Israel, Italy, Germany and Spain.

The chimp DNA came from a male named Clint, who died last year of heart failure at the relatively young age of 24 at the Yerkes National Primate Research Center in Atlanta.

Tarjei S. Mikkelsen, an MIT graduate student of such promise that his elders honored him by making him senior author of a major paper, said researchers will be studying genetic changes that may be related to such human-specific features as walking upright on two feet, a greatly enlarged brain and complex language skills.

Key distinctions already made

Among the discoveries so far is that three key genes involved in inflammation appear to be deleted in the chimp genome, perhaps explaining some of the known differences with humans in respect to the immune inflammatory response.

On the other hand, humans appear to have lost function of the caspase-12 genes, which produce an enzyme that may help protect other animals from Alzheimer's disease.

"The sequencing of the chimp genome is a historic achievement that is destined to lead to many more exciting discoveries with implications for human health," said Dr. Francis Collins, director of the National Genome Research Institute, which funded the project at a cost he put at $20 million to $40 million.

"It has become clear that comparing the human genome with other genomes of other organisms is an enormously powerful tool for understanding our own biology."

The researchers warn against the breeding of transgenic chimps, as is often done with mice, and called for more effective policies to protect chimps in their wild habitat.

"We hope that elaborating how few differences separate our species will broaden recognition of our duty to these extraordinary primates that stand as our siblings in the family of life," they wrote.
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Just the way the Lord, our God intended...


Yes well I'm all for evangelicals putting their money where their mouth is. They should boycott any medical/technological advances derived from such blasphemous research, and instead put their own scientists to work on studying the bible to derive how adam and eve were able to live so long/avoid cancer, etc. And then come up with a biblical cure for cancer .


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Yes well I'm all for evangelicals putting their money where their mouth is. They should boycott any medical/technological advances derived from such blasphemous research, and instead put their own scientists to work on studying the bible to derive how adam and eve were able to live so long/avoid cancer, etc. And then come up with a biblical cure for cancer .


I suppose they'll wait for normal science to solve all those problems and then make up a rediculously unbelievable way of how they could have come to the same conclusion by reading the bible. Same as they always do.


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Yes well I'm all for evangelicals putting their money where their mouth is. They should boycott any medical/technological advances derived from such blasphemous research, and instead put their own scientists to work on studying the bible to derive how adam and eve were able to live so long/avoid cancer, etc. And then come up with a biblical cure for cancer .

Don't they already have one? Prayers? Seem to be the cure for everything, if you're sincere enough.

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...works for me except for the horrible diarrhea. I think it might be the devil trying to escape through my butt.

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Don't they already have one? Prayers? Seem to be the cure for everything, if you're sincere enough.


Yes but its so much easier to act that you can cure something when there actualy is a cure for it. Praying for someone to get better and slipping him teh pill when nobody is looking works way better than just praying for someone


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put their own scientists to work on studying the bible to derive how adam and eve were able to live so long/avoid cancer, etc.


Seriously!

http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/longpatr.html


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Those of us in the mutant squirrel/human hybrid genus knew all along you guys were chimps.

Especially occrider.




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