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Minister: Bush must be 'shot down' BERLIN, Germany (Reuters) -- A conservative German minister in a southern state has caused uproar by saying U.S. President George W. Bush should be "shot down" for his handling of the crisis in hurricane-struck New Orleans. Andreas Renner, Social Minister in Germany's southern state of Baden-Wuertemberg, clarified later that he had only meant Bush should be downed politically. During a visit to a local company on Tuesday, Renner said of Bush: "He ought to be shot down." He later retracted the remark, saying he meant Bush should be shot down "in a political sense", according to the Reutlinger General-Anzeiger newspaper. Opposition Social Democrat (SPD) politicians in the state called for his resignation, noting conservatives were quick to call for the resignation in 2002 of a former SPD national justice minister, Herta Daeubler-Gmelin, who according to press reports compared Bush to Hitler. Daeubler-Gmelin is reported to have said that by threatening to attack Iraq, "Bush wants to distract attention from his domestic political problems. That's a favorite method. Hitler did that too." She was later replaced. Renner's Christian Democrat Party (CDU) is traditionally close to the United States and has openly supported the Bush administration in marked contrast to Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder. Find this article at: http://edition.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/e...reut/index.html

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Now notice the irony, this was from a member of the conservative party in Germany.

Can you imagine what European liberals are saying?

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Now notice the irony, this was from a member of the conservative party in Germany. Can you imagine what European liberals are saying?

hehe, true..

kill him!!

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But if I, an American, say I want to kill Gerhard Schroder, then I am a pig and not tolerant of other people, cultures and ideas.
(I think the man has done a crappy job and is indecisive like Bush at times. But he still has freedom of expression and the right to live.)

Give me a break.

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Originally posted by HardTranceProd Now notice the irony, this was from a member of the conservative party in Germany. Can you imagine what European liberals are saying?

This is pissing me off, a liberal in Europe is a true liberal, not a person that's left like you use the term in the US. THIS IS A INTERNATIONAL FORUM PLEASE USE CORRECT TERMS!!!

Secondly, what you were refering to, "the left", which traditionally is pretty against America was the ones makeing the fuss in the article, calling for the conservative's resignation!!

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Social Democrat (SPD) politicians in the state called for his resignation

So, no politican would truly mean that they wanted to kill someone, that would be political suecide on this side of the pound.

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Originally posted by Reverend_Trance But if I, an American, say I want to kill Gerhard Schroder, then I am a pig and not tolerant of other people, cultures and ideas. (I think the man has done a crappy job and is indecisive like Bush at times. But he still has freedom of expression and the right to live.) Give me a break.

OMG, read the article you too. It's not like ppl were accepting what he said, even tho he didnt' even say he wanted Bush killed. Also, the previous person who said something similar, was sacked!!!

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Originally posted by St_Andrew This is pissing me off, a liberal in Europe is a true liberal, not a person that's left like you use the term in the US. THIS IS A INTERNATIONAL FORUM PLEASE USE CORRECT TERMS!!!

Of course, I was just explaining it for josh4's sake.

I was trying to make it more understandable for HIM