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Boyfriend unwelcome at funeral

Alicia's family says he declined to help them
'We owe (Hine) nothing but our ... disappointment'

LINDA DIEBEL
STAFF REPORTER

The grief of Alicia Ross's family at last week's discovery of their daughter's remains is made worse by their anger with her boyfriend, who they claim declined to help them when they needed him most.

The accusations were made yesterday by Alicia's grief-stricken parents, Sharon and Julius Fortis, after a recent spate of media interviews by Sean Hine, 29.

In them, he commented negatively about a former boyfriend of Alicia's and said Julius Fortis apologized to him last week after a next-door neighbour was charged with second-degree murder in her death.

Hine is no longer welcome at the family home, said the family, and will not be invited to the funeral to bury their daughter and sister.

Hine could not be reached for comment yesterday.

Yesterday, in an email to the Toronto Star entitled "our beloved Alicia," the Fortis-Ross family said that, sometime after Alicia's disappearance from her Thornhill home in Markham, her mother spoke with Hine on the telephone, "begging him to go to the police, to help our family, to help find Alicia. He hung up on her," the email said.

"She then met with him in a park and when she said we needed his help his reply was, `She's the strongest girl I know. I just know she'll find her way home.'"

Instead, last week, York Regional Police announced that human remains found at two sites in the Kawartha Lakes district north of Toronto belonged to Alicia. They were located by police after Daniel Sylvester, 31, surrendered himself early Tuesday, accompanied by his lawyer, David Hobson. He appeared in court last week charged with second-degree murder and was remanded until late October.

On the telephone with the Star yesterday, Sharon Fortis alternated between anger at Hine and deep anguish over the loss of Alicia, 25.

"I was so full of hope that day you came to our home," she said, about Saturday, Aug. 27, when she welcomed a Star reporter and photographer into her home at Bronte Rd. to talk about her daughter and lay out photographs of her life.

"I thought we would get her back," she said.

That day, her husband said he always thought that when he appeared in the newspaper, it would be because he'd won $10 million. "Now all I want is for Alicia to come home," said Julius Fortis. "She is my cheque for $10 million — and much more."

Sylvester lived with his mother, Olga, right next door.

Hine was the last person to see Alicia alive around midnight on Aug. 16. When he couldn't contact her later, and again the next morning, he called 911, instead of the family — a fact that Sharon Fortis made clear baffled them.

Last week, Hine said Julius Fortis apologized after Sylvester's arrest. Earlier, he'd said he felt like "a suspect" after police interviewed him after he reported Alicia missing, though police called him a "person of interest." Hine told the Star that he felt he was going to need therapy after being questioned by police. But yesterday's email from the family said: "Many people, including `persons of interest' were interviewed by police over and over again. No one considered it being bugged or bothered ... many people considered it an honour to be interviewed, if it meant helping our family find Alicia."

The email says: "Alicia's stepfather never `apologized' to Sean Hine. We owe him nothing but our continued disappointment."

It adds: "As far as our family is concerned, we don't owe Sean Hine an apology,' rather we are disappointed that he is, after the fact, now making himself so available for comment — comments which are aggravating our already unbearable situation."

The missive comes from the entire Ross-Fortis clan, which consists of the parents who merged two clans of a combined six children when they married 14 years ago. Julius Fortis is stepfather to Alicia.

The email disputes the claim by Hine, who'd been dating Alicia for seven weeks, that she had serious problems with her former boyfriend, Dave Shekhter. The family describes the comments, which were widely printed, as "disgusting" and "untrue," adding that they "aggravated us to a point we thought we'd passed."

Last week, Shekhter was photographed in a giant bear hug with Alicia's brother, Shawn, 27, at the family's front door.

"Alicia and her former boyfriend spoke every day, and met for dinner a few times, keeping up their friendship ... (Shekhter) was, and continues to be, a valued member of our extended family, and has accepted our request that he be one of the six to carry our beloved Alicia to her grave."

The family has not yet decided on the date for Alicia's funeral and, according to Sharon Fortis, is searching for a site large enough to accommodate the many people who wish to attend.

"I can't bear to think of people having to stand outside," she said yesterday. She added that she has been touched by people who have sent cards and flowers or stood near her house in silent tribute.

"We thank the York Regional Police Department for their never-ending search efforts, and ongoing investigation," says the email, which also thanks supporters and the media.

Alicia's remains are being examined at the Office of the Chief Coroner on Grenville St., and it is expected to take some time before they can be released to the family.

Sharon Fortis said yesterday she had thought the funeral could be at the beginning of October but changed her mind since the Jewish holiday, Rosh Hashanah, begins on Oct. 4 and would allow only a brief time for the family to mourn.

"We want to sit Shiva for Alicia for a week,' she said, adding that the funeral will likely be around Oct. 7.

Although details remain to be worked out, Sharon Fortis said the family plans to set up a memorial fund to help send children on canoe trips to Algonquin Provincial Park, which Alicia dearly loved.

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Pretty disgusting if u ask me.


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now that is sad

"begging him to go to the police, to help our family, to help find Alicia. He hung up on her," the email said.

^ i'm sorry if i heard that kind of a line.. i would also assume wot hine thought.. that the parents believed that it was him who killed alicia..

i dont blame him for being distant.


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Originally posted by Spyder
now that is sad

"begging him to go to the police, to help our family, to help find Alicia. He hung up on her," the email said.

^ i'm sorry if i heard that kind of a line.. i would also assume wot hine thought.. that the parents believed that it was him who killed alicia..

i dont blame him for being distant.


I agree.

No shit he'd be reluctant to help them if everyone is pointing the blame-finger on him. So now they're hating on him because before they were blaming him for it and he obviously didn't appreciate that? Retarded people.


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as tragic as this is, i really don't like putting my 2 cents into something i don't understand. No one on this board can make an educated comment knowing all the facts of what has happened, the media does not paint us the whole picture, and if they do, it can often come wiht a strong bias to create a compeling story. I feel much emphathy for the family, and that is all i can do as i don't feel we have the right to judge this scenario properly.

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No one on this board can make an educated comment knowing all the facts of what has happened .


But isnt that why we're here?



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quote:
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But isnt that why we're here?




i say that comment kinda harshly for the reason that its a huge pet peeve of mine that our society has a tendency of reading a headline or believing everything they hear as its dished out to them without 'really' being able to know the true/full story. its definately good to be aware of what is happening in our world/community, but to comment, or make judgements about something that we have not had first hand contact with makes no sense, becuase simply put WE DON'T KNOW!

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those parents sound like fucking idiots if you ask me.

no question they though he did it... the media made it seem like he did it to.. of course the guy would be laying low! and now to start cutting him up like that... pretty low if you ask me.

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those parents sound like fucking idiots if you ask me.

no question they though he did it... the media made it seem like he did it to.. of course the guy would be laying low! and now to start cutting him up like that... pretty low if you ask me.



^^^ woah buddy, keep in mind their daughter was just murdered!!!they're obviously very frustrated and want answers, and in times like this, ppl will search through even irrational solutions to find them. it doesn't mean they're 'bad' ppl or 'idiot's', but just picture someone close to you dieing, your mental state will not be all their.

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It's very simply really:

If you point a finger at someone for killing your daughter, don't expect him to be very friendly to you in the future.



They are mad at the world because their daughter was taken away. But sooner or later people's sympathy for them is gonna wear off if they keep acting like dicks.
Your daughter being killed is no doubt a very tramatic thing to go through but it doesnt give you the right to be an asshole.

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quote:
Originally posted by activate

no question they though he did it... the media made it seem like he did it to..


and just to support my previous point, the media is ALL you have to go on for this, so don't make it sound like thats a secondary source, casue thats your only source.

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^^^ woah buddy, keep in mind their daughter was just murdered!!!they're obviously very frustrated and want answers, and in times like this, ppl will search through even irrational solutions to find them. it doesn't mean they're 'bad' ppl or 'idiot's', but just picture someone close to you dieing, your mental state will not be all their.





i still think they're dicks.

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