ive just been wondering how you guys feel about vocal trance being mixed into sets and where they should be placed as far as warmup tracks, peak, or ending tracks. just curious to know. thanks

personally, im not all that keen on vocal stuff, but if i do buy a vocal track it has to be spot on and stand out from the rest.

there aint really a given rule, to where vocal tracks should be placed in a set really, just do what u feel like doing

sometimes i like to string a couple of vocal tracks together in a mix, cos it can sound really good if you do it right, and you can layer to different vocals together.....but its up 2 u

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I think it all comes down to understanding your own music collection. When I am laying out a set and am listening to my tracks, usually the current track will evoke an emotion in me. This usually leads to me choosing the next song, which may or may not be vocal.

The vocal tracks I tend to choose are very strong and poignant, so I would say most of my vocal tracks I choose are used to eitehr create a peak in my set, or to set the next track up for just that purpose.

But like was posted previously, there is no set rules for when vocals get tossed into a set.

If my crowd is not the edm loving type, then I will most likely drop more vocals, simply because people enjoy vocals more. Cater yo your crowd, read it properly and half your problems are solved.

I don't play much vocal stuff either, but there is a time and place for it.
In dance floor situations it's often good to get the ladies dancing, and then of course the men will dance yada yada yada.

If you like vocal trance then there is nothing wrong with you playing it. It's totally up to you and there isn't really any hard or fast rules.

Something i do look for when I listen to a vocal is the fact that, it's important to know if the producer padded out a weak track with a vocal because nothing else fitted or if the track was built around the vocal.

To good examples of this in my book are Tiesto's remix of 'Skin - Faithfulness' and Agnelli & Nelson's 'Holding Onto Nothing'. I like them to play out as well as to listen to. Although a little old they are really well produced in my opinion.

Track's like Satelite are also good examples but I tend to like them less.

I tend not to drop that much vocal stuff but if a track was good then I would vocal or not. I don't really let the vocal decide if it's a good tune on the dancefloor, it's just something you have to feel.

If people are enjoying some vocals, then why disapoint.

Cheers
Nem

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thanks all

i like to play some slower prog vocal tracks (130+ bpm) in the beginning, but never 2 in a row (thats just me, i feel there should be some time in between).

i dont like the sound of forced vocals, as nem said. i feel that IF a vocal track must be played, it had better be a 'vocal track' and not a 'track with vocals'... as in the beats/bass/synths shouldve been produced around the vocals.

such as.. andain - beautiful things, sultan & the greek - wadi. also, there are a bunch of sarah mclachlan remixes that are great for warm ups, peak time, or filler.

be creative with your vocals, they can be an excellent element to a set. (make sure theyre in key though this is far more important aspect with vocals)

razzi.

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Originally posted by razzi (make sure theyre in key though this is far more important aspect with vocals) razzi.

can elaborate by what you mean on key? i just started spinning and all i basically know is how to beatmatch, still trying to get phrasematching. i see you guys talk about keys, what exactly do you guys mean?

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Originally posted by hiram can elaborate by what you mean on key?

http://tranceaddict.com/forums/show...threadid=125634

Damn big thread, but full of usefull information nonetheless.

i think the key factor is dont over do it with vocal tracks, you need to use them to enhance the mood you have built up during your set not kill it.

I tend to play vocal tracks more when i am recording a set say for etn.fm
I can tell a story using those tracks and the audience will listen as they are not dancing madly in a club with all thier friends, they are at home doing whatever so the vocals get thru better.
In a club i tend to not play so many vocal tracks, but it depends on my mood and the mood i am feeling from the dance floor, sometimes dropping in a killer vocal track will ignite the dance floor faster than a non vocal track if dropped just in the right place.

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