ur kidding .... please tell me this is a joke, they wouldnt be that dumb ... would they?

Screw it, just illegally download it and say u bought it, they deserve it for their logic.

It's bad enough on vinyl, but its a digital copy! record companies, i ask u.

the only logical explanation i can think of is that they want to fulfil a certain quota of vinyl sales since there's more money to made in selling a vinyl than a digital download. still seems pretty stupid tho..

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Originally posted by ô§§|E Screw it, just illegally download it and say u bought it, they deserve it for their logic.

See now here's where the problem is, TBH I probably would try and do this, BUT the odds of finding a 320kbps MP3 or **gasp** a WAV or FLAC is going to be near impossible...

And even if they wanted to fill a vinyl quota, I guess my assumption would be that they KNOW who they're going to sell vinyl to (I mean, the numbers have to be out there, sales trends and such) so my thinking would be that a well established label like Alternative Route would have a good idea how much vinyl they were going to sell regardless of a limited digital release. I guess what I'm trying to say is that I doubt vinyl sales would be that heavily affected...

And is it really that big of a difference in money made off vinyl v. dd's? I mean, the cost to produce an audio file has to be exceptionally minimal, so even after you pay licensing rights to the artist and take a chunk for the label and the dd store, I guess my thinking is the shear volume sold would make significantly more than these limited releases... But admittedly, I know absolutely nothing about the record industry, which is why I ask questions such as this...

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No I don't think they make more off vinyl than DD. Vinyl isn't that cheap to produce. It's something the owner of the independent label I'm signed to has been researching and dealing with for years, and at this point in time it is actually cheaper to go straight DD as a label than to ever fuck around with vinyl.

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Originally posted by Zild No I don't think they make more off vinyl than DD. Vinyl isn't that cheap to produce. It's something the owner of the independent label I'm signed to has been researching and dealing with for years, and at this point in time it is actually cheaper to go straight DD as a label than to ever fuck around with vinyl.

This is exactly what I was thinking... which would also make "limited release" DD's absolutely pointless and counterproductive...

Does anyone have any idea what the other side of this argument might be? I'm really at a loss here, but for some reason feel that there must be a reason they do this... Unfortunately the only reason I can come up with can be summed up by the phrase "dick move."

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It might be because some of the vinyl labels are trying to keep from going under right now.

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Originally posted by Zild It might be because some of the vinyl labels are trying to keep from going under right now.

I guess, but wouldn't more revenue from DD's prevent some of that?

Unfortunately, I can already see this turning into a "Vinyl is dead" vs. "No it's not!" argument...

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The thing with vinyl is you have to guarantee a certain amount of records will be sold for it to be cost effective. If you pay to cut the master that you can press 1000 copies off of then you better sell those 1000 copies.

It makes me sad when Adam Beyer can't sell 500 copies of his new release to save his life but Marco Ranieri's Hardcore Salsa gets additional press after additional press. It's a sad state of affairs.

People please don't turn this into a ridiculous vinyl vs. cd debate.

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Originally posted by Zild The thing with vinyl is you have to guarantee a certain amount of records will be sold for it to be cost effective. If you pay to cut the master that you can press 1000 copies off of then you better sell those 1000 copies. It makes me sad when Adam Beyer can't sell 500 copies of his new release to save his life but Marco Ranieri's Hardcore Salsa gets additional press after additional press. It's a sad state of affairs. People please don't turn this into a ridiculous vinyl vs. cd debate.

Sad indeed.

And yes, let's not turn this into Vinyl v. CD... Terrific call...

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i gotto admit that if i was a label owner who released my own tracks i would like to make my stuff more rare so not everyone has a copy. then demand becomes greater ready for a later re release maybe?. its like the release of the x box 2 in the uk.

they could have sold twice as many but know that by limiting the numbers the hype is increased and even more people buy them.

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Originally posted by richg101 i gotto admit that if i was a label owner who released my own tracks i would like to make my stuff more rare so not everyone has a copy. then demand becomes greater ready for a later re release maybe?. its like the release of the x box 2 in the uk. they could have sold twice as many but know that by limiting the numbers the hype is increased and even more people buy them.

That's, I guess, the only logical explanation I could come up with... But still quite lame in my book, and the ethics of that kind of business practice are definitely questionable at best...

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