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toka
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Arrow Some Ableton Live questions

Hey!

Im been sitting with Ableton Live a few days now. Making my switch from Cubase SX to Ableton Live.

Its better GUI and less mouse clicking and everything is well organized. And i dont want too much features because i want to limit myself so Live is gonna be good for me.


I have a few questions about Live.


1.Where is the Effects sends in Live? I Only notice a Return.


2. If i want to work with midi clips in the arrange window. How do i do it?


I cant find any “create midi part” or something like that which is available in SX. In SX i just have to right click and create a midi part and start programming rhytms.


3. I have a question about Multi Out Vst instruments like Battery in Ableton Live. In SX when you launched Battery you automatically got all the channels for Battery in the SX mixer.

But how do i route Battery in Live in the mixer so i can work on each drum sound on each channel?

4. Which program do u use in Ableton to load drum samples and create drum grooves ? What is the easiest way?

I want to load in my drum samples and work on each separate drum sound.


5.How do i record VST synths in ableton?


Im just been discovering Live but it seems awesome so far.

regards / toka


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wood0292
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Go through the tutorial and read the manual.

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If you follow the toutorials i'm sure that you'll be up running in a couple of hours...


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allcentury18
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quote:
Originally posted by wood0292
Go through the tutorial and read the manual.


actually not helpful at all because the manual doesn't discuss half of his questions. if you go to the ableton website though, the forum has already answered 2 or 3 of those.


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No Left Turn
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1. the effects sends are in the Session view. you can change views by pressing the Tab key (PC). if you can't see them, on the far right, under the scroll bar, you'll see a variety of view buttons. the 2nd or 3rd button will show the FX Sends on each channel.

2. highlight a desired length, anywhere from 1-908327818927 bars, go to the "Insert" menu, and Insert MIDI Clip.

3. using multi-timbral instruments like Battery and Kontakt is a little bit inconvenient in Live. in Cubase, I like to create separate MIDI tracks for each channel, however, in Live this will only take up more space. create a MIDI track and put Battery on it. you can do all your MIDI programming on the Battery channel, just to make things easier, but you'll need to create an audio track to monitor every output channel of Battery that you're using. it's weak, i know.

4. there's 2 ways to get around question 3 and to answer this one. A) you can just import your percussion samples directly to an audio track or B) use Ableton's "Simpler" plug-in. it's a super easy to use, one-channel sampler (which will take care of your problems with any multi-timbral sampler you're using).

5. the only way i've ever been able to do this is to solo the track and bounce it out and reimport it. never been able to literally record a vst to audio, but essentially, you're doing the same thing by bouncing.

i hope this helps!

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wood0292
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quote:
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actually not helpful at all because the manual doesn't discuss half of his questions. if you go to the ableton website though, the forum has already answered 2 or 3 of those.


I found the manual and tutorial to be extremely helpful. Its definitely a good start if he/she has been playing w/ live for "a few days" and can't find the sends(or do some of the other basic tasks). I still learn new stuff when I read the manual again. The ableton forums are good as well, but for some of these basic things the tutorial only takes an hour or so and will help alot.

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5. the only way i've ever been able to do this is to solo the track and bounce it out and reimport it. never been able to literally record a vst to audio, but essentially, you're doing the same thing by bouncing.

It's really simple. Select "Audio from" the specific midi channel with the vst you want to record. And then in session mode, press the record button on a empty audio clip, and press play on the midi clip you want to record... You can also select "Audio to" the specific audio track on the midi channel.


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3. using multi-timbral instruments like Battery and Kontakt is a little bit inconvenient in Live. in Cubase, I like to create separate MIDI tracks for each channel, however, in Live this will only take up more space. create a MIDI track and put Battery on it. you can do all your MIDI programming on the Battery channel, just to make things easier, but you'll need to create an audio track to monitor every output channel of Battery that you're using. it's weak, i know.


Thats cool. I was trying to figure that out. I will have to try that. I have been using Cubase for some time now and have become accustomed to it. I would like to use Live to play my Cubase projects. But it seems that if one of my rendered instruments has a tail end on it it gets cut off so that it can repeat on time. This make the flow very choppy from the original in cubase. Is there a way to get live to layer the samples tail end to the next start of its loop?

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No Left Turn
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you might wanna try bouccing out a "dry" track (keep dynamics processing, just without fx sends), and diong all your fx in Live. i don't use Live for live performances, but i would imagine that's how you would do it so that you wouldn't have a loop with a dry downbeat.

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Wow that sounds like a lot of work!. There has to be a better way to bring these tracks to the stage. I have played around with the idea of using Live to just send the midi VIA rewire to Cubase. But Live wont send out midi as a client... So I am stuck with the same issue of how can I have control of the flow of my track on stage. I have been playing around with this for a while and now time is short. Any input would be great!

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No Left Turn
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i don't get what exactly you're trying to do.

are you trying to play your cubase sessions via live? if you are, that's not going to work because cubase is the rewire master while live is the slave.

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Right. That didnt work. Other programs can be a rewire slave and still send midi to the master program. Live doesnt have this function for some odd reason. It will however send midi via rewire if it is the master... But Cubase wont slave with rewire.

The whole purpose behind doing this would be so that I have the very powerfull advantages of Cubase and the live performance feel of Lives play order functionality. It almost seemed like the perfect combo... But Ableton doest seem to want to have this kind of conectivity useing Rewire.

Does this make any sense to you?

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