Hey, I've noticed a trend in a lot of House sets lately to include tracks right before peak hour with massive builds that filter out into minimal riffs instead of dropping the bass. When I saw Roger Sanchez in Frankfurt this summer he was using this move a lot and was giving the crowd fits. The same was true for float 39 (the one with Tiefschwartz) at Loveparade this summer More recently the Sasha has been including blue ballsy progressive house tracks in his mixes [e.g. Joe T Vanelli feat Rochelle Fleming - Get It On (Dubby Mix)]. So my question is two fold:
1. Are these aching builds just a product of hopelessly sophisticated Abelton filtering and loops? or
2. Are there some tracks you could recommend that fit this bill without much manipulation?

I'd appreciate the help, it adds a really interesting element to the flow of a set to include tracks that keep the audience guessing. House, Electro, Trance... you know of some gems?

I think I know what you mean. It's just one good idea, which is copied into million other house tunes.

You mean tracks like this?
http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF205678-01-02-08.mp3

Or do you mean long uplift and then almost silence or just little riffs like in that Dubby Mix? Then you should listen to more house, that's the oldest trick in the world.

Last edited by humilis on Oct-10-2006 at 11:03

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Originally posted by humilis I think I know what you mean. It's just one good idea, which is copied into million other house tunes. You mean tracks like this? http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF205678-01-02-08.mp3 Or do you mean long uplift and then almost silence or just little riffs like in that Dubby Mix? Then you should listen to more house, that's the oldest trick in the world.

No, that sample is not quite what I'm talking about... in this example there is still a build to release, where as the Dubby Mix the build creates tension that hangs and doesn't give any closure; you're sure there's going to be a facemelting bass drop and instead in kicks a little two-step riff. I don't know, maybe I'm a just in house puberty, but the sort of tracks I'm talking about have a much different resolution to massive builds than Deepdish - Say Hello (Angello & Ingrosso Rmx) for example-- it's much more subtle resolution that tears you up inside with tension on the dancefloor.

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Originally posted by DJ Mission it's much more subtle resolution that tears you up inside with tension on the dancefloor.

Lol, actually it just makes me want to dance

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haha I think I know what you mean. There's a long build up but no overpowering peak or climax. You do hear it in Sasha's recent mixes and Holden did this too in NYC. You get ready for the bass to drop, but the track goes somewhere else leaving you slightly off balance and wondering what's going to happen next.

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Originally posted by barosoap haha I think I know what you mean. There's a long build up but no overpowering peak or climax. You do hear it in Sasha's recent mixes and Holden did this too in NYC. You get ready for the bass to drop, but the track goes somewhere else leaving you slightly off balance and wondering what's going to happen next.

yeah, that's what i'm talking about. Is this just complicated filters and mixing or is it just a result of good track selections? (Read: Is this an effect I have any hope of achieving in my mixes?)

Bodyrox - Yeah Yeah (D Ramirez Remix) is like this. When i heard it for the first time in april i remember calling it a negative buildup but blue balls house is better

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Originally posted by nefardec Bodyrox - Yeah Yeah (D Ramirez Remix) is like this. When i heard it for the first time in april i remember calling it a negative buildup but blue balls house is better

Blue balls house is fucking priceless!!!

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I think its actually pretty effective. It keeps all that built up tension in, rather than letting it out. Gives me tons of energy and makes the next buildup that much better.

I think these guys should start actually selling this as blue balls house. It would be by far the best marketing term ever invented.

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Yeah, tracks like these have interesting effects-- it really kind of stuns and engages the audience. Very cool. Trance already has breaks that are so complex and interesting that extra effects of this sort would probilbly just piss off the audience. I've heard a bit of electro that uses similar effects nicely however. Can you recommend any other tracks that fit this pattern? It goes a long way to break up redundancy and add textures to sets.

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Originally posted by thoughtlessjex I think these guys should start actually selling this as blue balls house. It would be by far the best marketing term ever invented.