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Pett
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e is irrational

If e were rational, then e = n/m for some integers m, n. So then 1/e = m/n. But the series expansion for 1/e is
1/e = 1 - 1/1! + 1/2! - 1/3! + ...

Call the first n terms of this alternating series S(n). How good is this approximation to e? Well, the error is bounded by the next term of the alternating series:
0 < | 1/e - S(n) | = | m/n - S(n)| < 1/(n+1)!

But multiplying through by n!, you will see that
0 < | integer - integer | < 1/(n+1) < 1.
But there is no integer strictly between 0 and 1, so this is a contradiction; e must be irrational.

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Pi > e

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I finished the first sentence and wanted to shoot myself. I'm not even joking, my stress level just shot through the roof. God, I hate math.

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I finished the first sentence and wanted to shoot you in the face. I'm not even joking, my stress level just shot through the roof. God, I hate your post.


First time I've ever done this, but...

FIXED.


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ecstacy is a number?

EDIT>
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It is known that e is irrational (proof)


i see..

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Re: e is irrational

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Originally posted by Pett
If e were rational, then e = n/m for some integers m, n. So then 1/e = m/n. But the series expansion for 1/e is
1/e = 1 - 1/1! + 1/2! - 1/3! + ...

Call the first n terms of this alternating series S(n). How good is this approximation to e? Well, the error is bounded by the next term of the alternating series:
0 < | 1/e - S(n) | = | m/n - S(n)| < 1/(n+1)!

But multiplying through by n!, you will see that
0 < | integer - integer | < 1/(n+1) < 1.
But there is no integer strictly between 0 and 1, so this is a contradiction; e must be irrational.


Of course i'm going to use the colour red as an example. It's at the end of the spectrum so the rational of clipping it doesn't require a significant leap to link the two data points into a single cohesive logical unit.

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fuck that. E is my friend.


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E = MC^2

Two Mc's equals E. E MC's. Yo.

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1+1=4?


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1+1=4?


not even imaginary. just wrong.

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