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hiram
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Registered: May 2005
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EQ'ing 101

all is going well and its been 2 years since i started spinning. ive got the beatmatching and phrase matching down now but i still need to do some polishing on the EQing. anyone have any tips on how to do this properly. any help would be greatly appreciated.


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Allayla
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Registered: Mar 2005
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My opinion is that you never really have to mess with EQ much unless the two tracks are fighting with each other which can be the case even when they're in key, so adjusting EQ acordingly. Gains and lows are mainly what i mess with.

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dJohn
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My opinion is that you never really have to mess with EQ much unless the two tracks are fighting with each other which can be the case even when they're in key, so adjusting EQ acordingly. Gains and lows are mainly what i mess with.


Not true. The amount of required EQing will differ according to the format you use. Vinyl requires more EQing since different records are pressed at different levels, but that's not to say that digital files don't require EQing. It comes down to each track...EQing, in a nutshell, is adjusting the proper frequencies to match the overall level of output relative to the main volume.
In key or not, every transition requires some sort of EQing because the aural nature of each track is completely different. Think of your overall sound outout as a box, and your EQing is keeping every frequency within that box, making sure nothing stabs or sticks out.

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Allayla
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Originally posted by dJohn
Not true. The amount of required EQing will differ according to the format you use. Vinyl requires more EQing since different records are pressed at different levels, but that's not to say that digital files don't require EQing. It comes down to each track...EQing, in a nutshell, is adjusting the proper frequencies to match the overall level of output relative to the main volume.
In key or not, every transition requires some sort of EQing because the aural nature of each track is completely different. Think of your overall sound outout as a box, and your EQing is keeping every frequency within that box, making sure nothing stabs or sticks out.

Your right, and there is no right or wrong way of doing things, just comes down to what sounds the best. Cutting too much high or mid tends to bring the life out of a song to my ears, thats why i tend to stay away from messing with them too much.

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Zild
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For records pressed at different levels you just need to adjust the gain. You aren't going to remaster a finished song with a three band EQ.


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For records pressed at different levels you just need to adjust the gain. You aren't going to remaster a finished song with a three band EQ.


Again, not true! Different mixers+different needles+different master levels of vinyl = different frequency responses. While I totally agree that 3 band EQing won't remaster a song(which I never said), the gain alone won't do the job either. It might make the most noticeable difference, but 3+ band EQing is ultimatley neccessary to adjust the levels properly,not just the gain.

Hope this helps.

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Allayla
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but 3+ band EQing is ultimatley neccessary to adjust the levels properly

Not true,

If your tweeking your highs and mids frequently to adjust your levels "properly" you must not be mixing the right tunes together, and or not mixing in key.

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Zild
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I kinda see where he is coming from but I don't think a poorly pressed track will sound good if you boost the mids or the highs or the bass a little etc... True needles all sound different some have punchy mids some have deeper bass some have very crisp highs. And that is why you choose the one you prefer better because they all sound different. But in most cases records are mastered to be played with the EQs at 12 o'clock.


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Ryan0751
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All true, but you should be able to mix without gain controls or EQ's...
they just make life easier, and your mixing a bit smoother.

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Abhay
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Registered: May 2004
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OK,

that's all good. But the guy wants to know the technique you guys use to EQ. Not whether or not it's necessary.

How do you guys EQ BASS, TREBLE, MID, in a very noisy 110dB+ environment?

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Originally posted by Ryan0751
All true, but you should be able to mix without gain controls or EQ's...
they just make life easier, and your mixing a lot smoother.

Fixed.

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NOT TRUE!

sorry...just felt like saying that

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