Regardless of the difference, I would not get either. The ridiculous bass exaggeration of the M1 Active has totally put me off the entire brand :P

There are much better monitors in that price range.

yea I have heard about that, but I thought maybe the new ones have some improvements.

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Originally posted by raconteur yea I have heard about that, but I thought maybe the new ones have some improvements.

yeah the new ones have tailoring switches on the back of them. i got sum of the 520 dirt cheap and i reli like them.

I keep hearing about that bass exaggeration everywhere. But I'm not noticing it at al with my MkII monitors. The bass response is very flat. I rarely get the bass levels wrong in my tracks since I got them.

Everyone says their monitors are flat. Its an almost meaningless term that only applies in engineering terms with a pink noise test anda graph of the result. I can't tell if a monitor is flat to within +1/-1 between 20hz and 20khz decible by ear. I probably couldn't even hear a 20khz tone anyway.

And your room acoustics will change everything. a 20hz tone going off at sizeable amplitude in my rom wouldnt mean shit. I could do it with a 25hz tone or a 30hz tone. All I would hear is fecking boomy standing waves and cans rattling on my desk.

I didn't like the Alesis M1 MKII though, not because I think its particularly bassy (couldn't really tell with an Event TR-6 next to it screaming at me at like 90 dB). I hated it because it sounded muffled and completely different to the ADAM P11a a little further down. Actually, everything I listend to just didn't sound like it did on the ADAM. Whether thats a good or bad thing, I have no idea. But I came away with a vague impression that I really liked it. It was built like a brick shit house. It weighed a tonne. It didn't chuff ports with sub bass. The MKIIs did.

Go and audition the MKIIs. Do you like them? If yes, then consider buying them. Don't buy anything without listening to it first.

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Originally posted by Derivative Go and audition the MKIIs. Do you like them? If yes, then consider buying them. Don't buy anything without listening to it first.

good point and today I'm going to listen these and also Mackies.

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Originally posted by Eldritch I keep hearing about that bass exaggeration everywhere. But I'm not noticing it at al with my MkII monitors. The bass response is very flat. I rarely get the bass levels wrong in my tracks since I got them.

You can't exectly say that about everyone, it depeneds on the producer whos buying the monitors and his ear.
After listening to a monitor for a few months (basicly having it set as a main speaker) and listening to more then a few well produced tracks while trying to reproduce their mix sound will eventually get your ear to know the monitor, that way even if the monitor gives out too much bass your ear won't exectly notice it, well it will, but you'll know how it needs to be heard and you'll seek that aamount.
Most monitors got different type of sounds, some play high freq's so clean it's amazing (Adams in my opinion), some got amazing depth and stereo image (Dynaudio BM Series imo) and some emphasize the bass respone more (the new Tannoy 6D, Alesis Prolinear and etc, again, thats my opnioin). you need to look for the monitor that your ears like, but do know that cheap monitors tend to make the track sound better sometimes, in other words they tend to lie and make everything pretty, while a good monitor will basicly say - "YOU SUCK" if you don't produce well but then again, a bad comment is better cause you'll know what to fix.

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Originally posted by raconteur good point and today I'm going to listen these and also Mackies.

And yea, that's the best advice you can get.
I've listened to over 35 brands before I bought mine...cheap ass ones and ones I could never afford right now.
ie. Samson, ESI, M-Audio, Roland, Alessis, Tannoy, Yamaha, Genelec, Mackie, Event, Adam, Dynaudio and more till I finally decided that Event ASP-6 would be the best closest (for me) to high quality sound that I can afford.