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sergedg
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Weesp, Netherlands
Is Trakor a good mixing program?

I wood like to mix on my pc and wood like to know if traktor is a good program for it?

Or are there better programs ot that work good with a soundblaster audigy Pletinum Ex?

Old Post Mar-26-2002 16:00  Netherlands
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Eugene
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Personally I don't like Traktor.
In order to use it well, you'll have to learn A LOT of different settings and options. It's very complicated, and requires learning.


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YuVaL
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quote:
Originally posted by Eugene
Personally I don't like Traktor.
In order to use it well, you'll have to learn A LOT of different settings and options. It's very complicated, and requires learning.


well...
think about the options a REAL MIXER has



i dont like traktor because i keep getting lag when i press the play button which really takes the mix off balance

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DJTJ
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Location: Bournemouth, UK when I'm at home, Cardiff, UK when I'm at uni

quote:
Originally posted by DJ-Energy


well...
think about the options a REAL MIXER has



Not really... What do you have on a real mixer? eq's, volume faders and a crossfader... and some form of headphone cueing system. I think what Eugene is getting at is that there are a lot of settings to do with how Traktor uses the soundcard(s), what the buttons do, how the playlist works etc, things that aren't an issue with real mixers.

I do agree with you on the lag issue though. Traktor is VERY graphical and hence takes a lot of processing just for the graphics, when really it should be fairly minimal graphically and concentrating on processing the sound.

I would say Virtual Turntables is a far better program, it has the minimal feel I mentioned so it doesn't skip when playing or anything like that, even when I used to use it on my old P233. It's also the closest PC mixing program I have used to real turntables. Moving up from this to real turntables was very easy for me.

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MERiDiAN5i2
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Texas, USA

If you want to mix digitally, there is only ONE worthy program in my opinion. AtomixMP3 2.1

www.atomixmp3.com

It's got tons of neat stuff.. effects, skins, external mixer support, looping, autoBPM, auto beat matching, waveform display... and it's STABLE! (unlike traktor)

-meridian

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sergedg
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Oke but do atomix and Virtual turntables work properly on one sound card(audigy platimun ex) and I Monitor with one soundcard?

In traktor I can use my asio driver to route the monitor to my second output.

Where can I get virtual turntables and atomix mp3 so I can try them out?

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DJTJ
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quote:
Originally posted by sergedg
Oke but do atomix and Virtual turntables work properly on one sound card(audigy platimun ex) and I Monitor with one soundcard?

In Virtual Turntables, Yes, you can, you can do all kinds of stuff. You can have as many soundcards as windows will handle (probably not many then) and assign the left channel to one and the right channel to another and all the different players to different soundcards if you want. And you can use just one soundcard, just send the speaker output to the left channel and the headphone output to the right, or the other way round if you prefer.
I can't comment on Atomix MP3 as I haven't used it.
quote:

Where can I get virtual turntables and atomix mp3 so I can try them out?

VTT: www.carrotinnovations.com

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MERiDiAN5i2
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Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Texas, USA

quote:
Originally posted by sergedg
Oke but do atomix and Virtual turntables work properly on one sound card(audigy platimun ex) and I Monitor with one soundcard?

In traktor I can use my asio driver to route the monitor to my second output.

Where can I get virtual turntables and atomix mp3 so I can try them out?


As far as sound for atomixmp3, you can have:

a) one sound card, internal mixer, stereo output (no cue)
b) one sound card, external mixer, split mono (track a on right track b on left, use a splitter)
c) one sound card, internal mixer, split mono (program on right, cue on left, use a splitter)

d) two sound cards (or a 3D card), internal mixer, stereo output (program on one card, cue on the other)
e) two sound cards (or a 3D card), external mixer, stereo output

With AtomixMP3, you can set it up so the main output of your audigy is the program, and the rear output is the cue. no need for a second soundboard. or you can use your second card for the cue and the audigy for the program... There is no need for fancy (and annoying)ASIO drivers, AtomixMP3 is based on DirectX and works best under Win98 or later with DirectX 8 or higher.

VTT is old and out of development. AtomixMP3 actually started from VTT and progressed into what it is today, from what I've read.

You can get the demo from download.com or atomixmp3.com

One note, is the extended sound configuration (IE dual sound boards or split mono) is not enabled in the demo - it DOES work in the full version, but is not even included in the demo.

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sergedg
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Weesp, Netherlands

Thanks for al the good tips. I'm downloading the demo's of the 2 programs now and I'm gonne test them out.

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spectra
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Shropshire
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Yea I would say Traktor is a good program to mix with on the PC, but I wouldnt agree that it is unstable. I've done a 3 hourlive set with it, and only got 1 skip with a track simply because of fragmentation. I dont quink its hard to use either, it took me a while to use it properly, but now I can mix with it well without no automatic functions. But about the lag (latency) is only caused by how fast ur soundcard can process the sound, there is a balance between having it to fast for ur soundcard and making it skip, and making it too slow and just plain shite.

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With AtomixMP3, you can set it up so the main output of your audigy is the program, and the rear output is the cue. no need for a second soundboard. or you can use your second card for the cue and the audigy for the program... There is no need for fancy (and annoying)ASIO drivers, AtomixMP3 is based on DirectX and works best under Win98 or later with DirectX 8 or higher.


I will Atomix, but the bottom line of the matter is that the Creative Labs Audigy sound card, is just shite for mixing. ASIO Full Duplex DirectX drivers are the best way to drive the processors on your soundcard. VTT is not a bad program, and would be good for getting used to the real thing, but i've used Trakor A LOT, and its gonna take either a pair of Technics 1210's or a real smooth PC program to beat it, =)

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xtr3m
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Vancouver

For me Traktor is the best, and believe me, I've tried pretty much every mixing program out there. My second favorite is the latest version of MixVibes.
About AtomixMP3 -- sorry, but it looks like a program for kids.

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spectra
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Shropshire

, I'm glad someone agree's with me, its the eJay of the pc mixing programs. Traktor and Delta44, cant beat it.

Old Post Mar-27-2002 12:57  England
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