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Originally posted by DevilDogUSMC Last year, 124-thousand pounds of illegal drugs were confiscated in this area.

S'cuse me??!? Baking powder?!?

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"Personal use doood!"

124,000lbs of drugs. At one station. They wouldn't keep sending drugs through if they knew it was risky. Therefore, a shitload of drugs must have passed through. I can't even imagine.

Yeah, because walls have worked so well throughout history, right?

A fence won't do anything to stop the illegal traffic. It's a good border measure though. What needs to happen is an improvement in monitoring the border, using technology, you can monitor the entire border. London has thousands of survellience cameras, and it is a working system. We can tailor a survellience system designed for a long border.

But the problem goes much deeper than that. Mexico is able to export its poor to our nation. How awesome would that be if we were able to send off our poor somewhere else? It's not what we do at the border, but it's what mexico does. Clearly, it benefits them much more to have a pourous border because...
1. Exportation of Mexico's poor.
2. Drug trafficers who have currupted the mexican government like it so they can continue their business.

My solution: Since it's much harder to change the mexicans than us, we should start at our current immigration policy. It's abismal. The border should be at least fenced to show a tangible border. All employers who knowingly employ illegal immigrants should be immidiatly put out of business, their business license taken away. No fines, no warning. The reason most of them are here is for work. If there is no work, they will be forced to go back. We should provide a non-punishable way for them to go back, so they won't be afraid to come forward to be deported. Promise them they will have to chance to come here legally. With that said...

We need to overhaul our immigration policies. We need to make it virtually cost-free, efficient, and non-bureacratic to process potential immigrants. That way, people will be more willing to use the legal process of immigration, than by the illegal one.

We need to do away with the "You're born here, so you're a citizen." Mexicans girls are coming over here, having babies so they can become citizens. It should be, "Only those born to american citizens are automatically citizens."

We cannot take care of mexico's curruption, and their peasants. 1/5 of their population has come here. This is not good at all, because only in bad situations does 1/5 of a country's population choose to leave. We're in iraq, but we can't secure our owning freakn borders. What a joke washington has become.

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Really off topic here, but has anyone seen "Children of Men?"

It was just released yesterday in the US, but it partly deals with an immigration policy gone out of control in the UK. I'm not saying the US is headed that way or that it could even feasibly happen, but it's an interesting perspective of how an extremely "tight" immigration policy would have to be enforced.

Personally, I agree that a fence is not an effective way to stop illegal immigration, but it is a good psychological barrier, and it's a start. We also need real punishment for illegals, not just a "we'll send you back over the border and you can sneak back when you're ready." Unfortunately, that would take the co-operation of the Mexican government, and they've already shown they are in favor of illegal emigration to the US. I see no way in which the international community would allow us to detail illegal immigrants (Guantanamo Bay II) without the support of other countries. Lastly, I think our drug policy needs a good looking at. I'm not saying all drugs should be made legal, but I'm sure a good percentage of that drug total is marijuana, which should be legalized. That would be one less problem to worry about.

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Originally posted by Krypton A fence won't do anything to stop the illegal traffic. It's a good border measure though. What needs to happen is an improvement in monitoring the border, using technology, you can monitor the entire border. London has thousands of survellience cameras, and it is a working system. We can tailor a survellience system designed for a long border. But the problem goes much deeper than that. Mexico is able to export its poor to our nation. How awesome would that be if we were able to send off our poor somewhere else? It's not what we do at the border, but it's what mexico does. Clearly, it benefits them much more to have a pourous border because... 1. Exportation of Mexico's poor. 2. Drug trafficers who have currupted the mexican government like it so they can continue their business. My solution: Since it's much harder to change the mexicans than us, we should start at our current immigration policy. It's abismal. The border should be at least fenced to show a tangible border. All employers who knowingly employ illegal immigrants should be immidiatly put out of business, their business license taken away. No fines, no warning. The reason most of them are here is for work. If there is no work, they will be forced to go back. We should provide a non-punishable way for them to go back, so they won't be afraid to come forward to be deported. Promise them they will have to chance to come here legally. With that said... We need to overhaul our immigration policies. We need to make it virtually cost-free, efficient, and non-bureacratic to process potential immigrants. That way, people will be more willing to use the legal process of immigration, than by the illegal one. We need to do away with the "You're born here, so you're a citizen." Mexicans girls are coming over here, having babies so they can become citizens. It should be, "Only those born to american citizens are automatically citizens." We cannot take care of mexico's curruption, and their peasants. 1/5 of their population has come here. This is not good at all, because only in bad situations does 1/5 of a country's population choose to leave. We're in iraq, but we can't secure our owning freakn borders. What a joke washington has become.

Man, fuck that

I want their business!

and republicans do too

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Originally posted by Sunsnail 124,000lbs of drugs. At one station. They wouldn't keep sending drugs through if they knew it was risky. Therefore, a shitload of drugs must have passed through. I can't even imagine.

Ya if all the drugs made it through i wouldnt be paying as much.

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Oh, and on drugs. Well you can blame the American media and bad parents for that problem. Not the government.