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MrJiveBoJingles
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Male freedom of choice?

Should men be legally able to opt out of supporting a child that is the product of an unplanned pregnancy?

That is, if a woman and a man are not planning to have children and the woman gets pregnant and decides not to abort, should the man be forced to pay child support?

Consider: once the woman is pregnant, she has the choice as to whether she will ultimately become a mother by carrying to term, but as of now (legally), the man has no choice as to whether the woman carries to term and makes him a father. Forcing him to pay child support is, in effect, holding him responsible for a decision that the woman makes, the decision not to abort.

You might say, "No, he is being held responsible for his decision to have sex!" But this is the exact same argument used in favor of forcing women to carry a child to term and denying them abortion rights: if they would rather not carry a child to term, then they should just not have sex in the first place.

The arguments are symmetrical here, but the legal situation is not. In order to be logically consistent in the case of unplanned pregnancies, you must affirm both abortion rights for women and opt-out rights for men, or deny both rights to both parties.

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you get someone pregnant, you pay...end of the fucking thread.
Man enough to breed=man enough to feed.

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grooviebeats
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no.. im a guy .. i get my girl prego ill pay if we split simple as that. It takes 2 to tango and if you dont want a kid either cover your stump before you hump, ladies take a BC pill, or just dont have sex dang i just said that


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It depends if the women asks for it or not. (It as in the child support) I wasn't a planned baby and my mom didn't ask for the child support. They weren't married nor planning on to. Also depends if they go to court for it and the court has to say about it. I've known couples who weren't going to have the man pay but somehow ended up in court( to fight for whose last name the child would get) and the court said he had to. I think he should.

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jdat
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this has prenup written all over it!

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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by all-nite-freak
you get someone pregnant, you pay...end of the fucking thread.
Man enough to breed=man enough to feed.

Do you also believe that women should be forced to carry children to term, then?

That is the only logically consistent option, given your position.

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grooviebeats
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you screwed some chick and got her knocked up didnt you


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men are forced to continue paying child support for children they've proven are not theirs through paternity tests several years later. should this be the case? that's the real issue.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Nope. This is just legal debate for the heck of it.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
men are forced to continue paying child support for children they've proven are not theirs through paternity tests several years later. should this be the case? that's the real issue.

That is a related but important issue, yes.

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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Do you also believe that women should be forced to carry children to term, then?

That is the only logically consistent option, given your position.


no...she can choose to abort.Its seems illogical, but everything is when it comes to pussy.Some are beefy, some are pretty,some blow air in your face when you play with them too much.All is irrelavent.If the the glove does not fit the bitch has aids

quote:
Originally posted by lex400sc
men are forced to continue paying child support for children they've proven are not theirs through paternity tests several years later. should this be the case? that's the real issue.


in this case the man should be allowed to sever ties and have his mates vagina sewn shut.

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grooviebeats
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quote:
Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Do you also believe that women should be forced to carry children to term, then?

That is the only logically consistent option, given your position.



i can kinda of see where you are going but what guy does not know what he is getting into or could get into when he puts his dick in?


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