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Orko
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Registered: Nov 2002
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Stop the radio shows!

We have been inundated with new radio shows in the last few years. It seems as if everybody is getting a show now, and why not? Its cheap, easy and a great way to market your self.

I wish more DJs would put out real live sets, which were actually recorded in the clubs. In the end, that is what I want to hear from the DJ, what their sound would be like if I went to see them at a show.

Their radio shows just do not do that. They are filled with tracks which are needed to lift what ever labels, promote their artist friends, and just do not provide a nice feel.

Just take a look at the tracklist forum, and see what I am talking about. How many of the threads are for actual sets recorded live on location, and how many of them are for Internet radio shows?

In the end, I also think it creates a false expectation for the listener/fan. DJs usually play more mellow, sedate stuff on air, because well you are sitting at home in your chair listening, and not dancing. So when the listener goes to the club, they want to hear what they heard on the net, and maybe not what is appropriate for a club setting.

I hate to use Armin as an example (I am not bashing him), but I just have to. When I got to see him, so many fans are putting up their phones with requests, like its some call in radio show. Its a club for sakes people, let the DJ do their thing and build. Let them pick the mood of the night, and create atmosphere. With so many different requests, the set is doomed to be all over the place.

Bring back the LIVE sets!

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nchs09
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Registered: Sep 2003
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i kinda agree, i enjoy a liveset more than a prerecorded set.


i like making prerecorded sets though, shows a bit more varaity of what you can do..... findiing hot tracks etc that might be too mellow to use in a regular set.. intro tracks im talking about.


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AirPole
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Registered: Jan 2002
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To some extent, I have to agree. They all spin the same tunes, over and over again. There is little diversity left. I liked Galen Behr's last few radio shows: along with new tracks, he threw in some classics.


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AndreaCKY772
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Registered: Mar 2006
Location: Near Boston, MA

even though i don't listen to radio shows very often, i don't think radio shows should be stopped exactly. but yes, definitely bring the live sets. i like hearing the audience reaction to what is beingplayed and HOW it was played in the club. i like the sound of the live shows a lot better than just radio shows. it's a different energy...


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MichaelBoogerd!
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Registered: May 2003
Location: Bratislava

It requires higher quality and less quantity.

Weekly shows can go down the plug because the DJ operates a much looser selection process in order to fill their show with tunes they wouldn't normally use, just to make 2hrs.

Monthly shows i have no problem with, on the whole, it allows a DJ to showcase their favourites at the time.

What i would like to see is less amateur shows. There is a tendency at the moment for the huge amount of internet radio stations to use amateur or fringe DJs who wouldn't get a quality show together, if it wasn't for listening to using Armin as an exmaple again. How many tunes are hyped and played by huge amounts of amateur radio DJs just because its "ASOT playlisted"

I like what PvD has done with Vonyc Sessions, and i hope Tiesto's new show takes the same stance. Armin's ASOT is an institution, but beyond these 3, why do we have so many other non-professionals using the same style as the above.


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MrJiveBoJingles
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.

A DJ should be able to do a daily show without playing the same tunes over and over or throwing in tracks as "filler."

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Yohan
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A DJ should be able to do a daily show without playing the same tunes over and over or throwing in tracks as "filler."

And where is he going to find the time to do this?


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MrJiveBoJingles
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A better way to phrase that would be this: If a good DJ had a daily show, he would not have to use the same tracks over and over and throw in tracks as "filler."

Obviously some DJs have other jobs, so they would not actually be able to put on a daily show. But they should have enough good tunes that they could fill a daily show without reusing the same tracks.

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MrJiveBoJingles
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Registered: Jun 2004
Location: U.S.

That's what a DJ is supposed to do: find new good music that you might not otherwise hear and introduce it to you in a mix.

Not hammer the same damn "hits" over and over and over to fill stadiums or increase his "position" on some idiotic chart.

The "hit parade" variety of DJ could be replaced by robots soon enough if not for the fact that people seem to need an actual human being to idolize and put in place of the music.

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AndreaCKY772
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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
That's what a DJ is supposed to do: find new good music that you might not otherwise hear and introduce it to you in a mix.

Not hammer the same damn "hits" over and over and over to fill stadiums or increase his "position" on some idiotic chart.



yes, it would be refreshing if the same hits are not recycled 24/7 in all of the shows. new music is nice to hear! i like finding out some new music and saying "hey, who's that by? what track is that called?" when i lsiten to sets.


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isoterra
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
A better way to phrase that would be this: If a good DJ had a daily show, he would not have to use the same tracks over and over and throw in tracks as "filler."

Obviously some DJs have other jobs, so they would not actually be able to put on a daily show. But they should have enough good tunes that they could fill a daily show without reusing the same tracks.


essentially you're saying DJs should have really low standards when choosing tracks.. there's no way in hell you could get enough new material otherwise

and if a track is exceptional & works well in various situations, why on earth would they not want to reuse it?

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Don't worry, no one will have any dance music radio shows in a few weeks if they are based out of the US.

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