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theognis1002
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Registered: Dec 2006
Location: Virginia, USA
Phrasing*?

Is that the term for matching the songs up by their measures and bars?


well its kind of hard for me to explain but
Like i hear in some of Paul Van Dyk's older sets where he matches the songs up perfectly where the live song is having a build right to the outro and the incoming track is having a build to the body of the track ...

i dont get how u can get both songs matched that exact down to the second .... even with shitloads of practice. is there a program or technique or something so u know when to start playing the incoming track so its matched up perfectly when u mix it in?

thx sorry if i didnt explain what i mean corretly

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Mr.Mystery
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The technique is called "knowing your tracks". There really is no trick to it, you just need to know the stuff you play and it all falls into place.

I really wouldn't start mixing in from a breakdown/build though.


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theognis1002
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i didnt really mean a build like that or a breakdown
man i dont know what to call it .... ugh


it was just at like a perfect time to mix in ... everymix too

i know about knowing ur tracks but... getting it down to the exact second? ... like he wasnt even a frame ahead or behind... it was dead on

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Mr.Mystery
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I'm not really sure if I understand you correctly, but that's what any DJ should be able to do. It's one of the basic skills.


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Smiley :D
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do you mean dropping the incoming track when the outgoing track has no beats?

if so its harder than doing it normally but still doable with practice

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jupiterone
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quote:
Originally posted by Smiley
do you mean dropping the incoming track when the outgoing track has no beats?

if so its harder than doing it normally but still doable with practice



The safest mixing is probably mixing when the outgoing is at its outro, basically every 8 bars the outgoing track will start reducing percussion (well most). I'm not that good at explaining things but I think you get the point:


outgoing: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8_CRASH!!!!
incoming: ----------------------1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8_CRASH!!!!


But it's also one of the most boring ways to mix

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SPAWNmaster
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like its already mentioned its a basic skill to be able to "allign the tracks perfectly" as you put it...phrasing, beatmatching, harmonics, eq, fx, this is all the foundation for being a DJ.


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Clovis
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I usually dont even think about it. That metronome in my brain counts for me


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idoru
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis
I usually dont even think about it. That metronome in my brain counts for me


That would explain why your sets are always so poorly phrased.

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theognis1002
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haha Clovis owned.

anyways... how do u know how many bars there are till the melody of the next song comes in? thats what is puzzling me

i dont see how u can match up it perfectly unless u practice mixing those 2 songs beforehand


to get it like what a person above kind of said

outgoing: 8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1_CRASH!!!!-(outro)
incoming: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8_CRASH!!!!-(body)

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SPAWNmaster
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well its already been mentioned that you should know your tracks to begin with. additionally as a DJ you should know your genre well enough to predict to an extent how things will match up...your brain will do it automatically at a certain point and combined with knowing your tracks well, it will be perfect every time.


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Originally posted by theognis1002
haha Clovis owned.

anyways... how do u know how many bars there are till the melody of the next song comes in? thats what is puzzling me

i dont see how u can match up it perfectly unless u practice mixing those 2 songs beforehand


to get it like what a person above kind of said

outgoing: 8-7-6-5-4-3-2-1_CRASH!!!!-(outro)
incoming: 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8_CRASH!!!!-(body)


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discobiscuit
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pvd is a pro! he knows his tracks inside and out... just keep practicing!

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