does anyone else have latency issues with using the virus with ableton

I have to move my midi notes back a fraction to compensate which is really annoying - i wish it would just be like cubase and go into time

adjustusting the latency settings in the preferences seems to do nothing as well. HELP!!!

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What you need to do is adjust the "track delay"

First, go to session view

From the "view" menu, make sure "track delay' is enabled

Now, below each track mixer you'll see a track delay control. Adjust
these to correct latency problems. You can adjust either the
midi channel delay or the audio channel delay if you are recording
back into Live.

If adjusting the midi channel, you'll want to change the delay to
a negative number. On my virus B through a MOTU midi interface,
I set this to -28msec. Essentially what happens is that the midi note
will be played 28msec earlier than normal.

Alternatively, you can set the audio track you're recording into to
have a delay of 28msec. This is essentially looking 28msec into the
future and recording that sound as if it was occurring now.

The 28msec number will depend on your midi and audio card. I record
a midi sequence of fast attack sounds that occur dircetly on a beat and
then mess around with the delay until the recorded sound lines up on
the beat.

Thanks 4 that, I've been trying to fix this for a while now.

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Originally posted by retroware What you need to do is adjust the "track delay" First, go to session view From the "view" menu, make sure "track delay' is enabled Now, below each track mixer you'll see a track delay control. Adjust these to correct latency problems. You can adjust either the midi channel delay or the audio channel delay if you are recording back into Live. If adjusting the midi channel, you'll want to change the delay to a negative number. On my virus B through a MOTU midi interface, I set this to -28msec. Essentially what happens is that the midi note will be played 28msec earlier than normal. Alternatively, you can set the audio track you're recording into to have a delay of 28msec. This is essentially looking 28msec into the future and recording that sound as if it was occurring now. The 28msec number will depend on your midi and audio card. I record a midi sequence of fast attack sounds that occur dircetly on a beat and then mess around with the delay until the recorded sound lines up on the beat.

Hey man - your responce to my query is perfect - thank you so much!!

I'll give this a try tonight, fingers crossed

I thought I had it in sync last night then played a soft synth on it that i knew was in time and it sounded completely off.

Thanks again though retroware - I really appreciate it.....

I really hope this works becasue if it doesn;t it;s going to put me off hardware forever or ableton forever lol

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quote:

Originally posted by retroware What you need to do is adjust the "track delay" First, go to session view From the "view" menu, make sure "track delay' is enabled Now, below each track mixer you'll see a track delay control. Adjust these to correct latency problems. You can adjust either the midi channel delay or the audio channel delay if you are recording back into Live. If adjusting the midi channel, you'll want to change the delay to a negative number. On my virus B through a MOTU midi interface, I set this to -28msec. Essentially what happens is that the midi note will be played 28msec earlier than normal. Alternatively, you can set the audio track you're recording into to have a delay of 28msec. This is essentially looking 28msec into the future and recording that sound as if it was occurring now. The 28msec number will depend on your midi and audio card. I record a midi sequence of fast attack sounds that occur dircetly on a beat and then mess around with the delay until the recorded sound lines up on the beat.

hey man - this is probably a long shot but do you have an als file for your set up?

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Just uploaded a zip to

http://mysite.verizon.net/retroware/latency.zip

The project has three midi/audio track pairs.
The first pair, I recorded some rimshots (program g95 on the Virus b)
with no track delay set at all. You can see from the audio track that
the rimshots are hitting about 25msecs off the beat.

On the next pair, I set the midi track delay to -25msecs and recorded the
same midi clip. Note now that the rimshots fall on the beat.

On the last pair, I set the audio track delay to 25 msecs. This again moves
the recorded rimshots onto the beat.

I tend to use the audio track delay to compensate for latency. If I set the midi track delay
to -25msecs and then just send the audio out a mixer, the timing sounds bad.
With my setup, I think most of my latency is the result of the a/d conversion process.

wicked, thanks man

thats perfect, i couldnt work out why i couldn;t adjust the track dealy and it was becasue i hadn;t disabled the delay compensation thing. all sounds good to me now and I'm -22 out

now i'm getting some nice use out of it, thanks again. good vibes ure way

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