relax
Rising the escalation of the crises
is one of the main goals by outer and insider players

Ok if u want the reality start of all of this


Here's the start of the conflict
cut from the Al-Ahram's interview with Robert Fisk

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Fingerprints of history Gamal Nkrumah and Mohamed El-Sayed gauge the state of the world's most troubled region -- the Middle East -- with eminent author Robert Fisk Palestine is a different kettle of fish altogether. "The Islamic Movement Hamas didn't succeed because we (Western governments) didn't want them to succeed. We didn't want to talk to them. And they were under sanctions because the Western governments believe that those pesky Palestinians elected the wrong people. Western governments do not want democracy in the Middle East. We are quite happy to have dictators if they are obedient to us. We like them when they invade Iran, but not when they invade Kuwait. We liked Egypt until it nationalised the Suez Canal. Then we bombed Port Said, Ismailia and Suez. Because we have ideological as well as oil interests, we try constantly to refashion the façade that allows us to support various regimes." Fisk continues: "Western governments want peoples [of the region] to elect political forces these governments like. The Palestinians didn't vote for an Islamic republic, rather they were sick of corruption. The way [Western governments] dealt with Arafat's regime made it bound to be corrupt. If the Palestinians had elected people Western governments had wanted they would have praised this democracy. Western governments and the European Union didn't want to give money to Hamas. They were used to giving it to a Palestinian Authority that was squandering it." Fisk concludes: "From the very beginning I said Oslo would be a tragedy." What about the new government of national unity bringing Fatah and Hamas together? "Should Hamas recognise the State of Israel? If Israel really wants peace, why don't they sit with Hamas and have a serious, mature discussion to agree on a formula that would work? The question is: Do we want peace or not? Why don't we refer back to UN Security Council Resolution 242 stating that Israel should withdraw from all the territories occupied in 1967?"

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well, just think how much worse things would be if they werent bound by their religion of peace!

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN well, just think how much worse things would be if they werent bound by their religion of peace!

lol

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by M.Johan relax Rising the escalation of the crises is one of the main goals by outer and insider players Ok if u want the reality start of all of this Here's the start of the conflict cut from the Al-Ahram's interview with Robert Fisk The Source

Right of course. The problem is always something external. Its never the Palestinian. It must be the West, or America, or Jews, or free trade, or some global conspiracy. Never the Palestinians. Never the local players.


Right on.

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Originally posted by Yoepus Right of course. The problem is always something external. Its never the Palestinian. It must be the West, or America, or Jews, or free trade, or some global conspiracy. Never the Palestinians. Never the local players. Right on.

exactly. i saw one of hamas' leaders last night, saying something about the violence being part of the "american plan" take some responsibility for fucksake.

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************, who caused it. Not at all good.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN exactly. i saw one of hamas' leaders last night, saying something about the violence being part of the "american plan" take some responsibility for fucksake.

Typical, well at least of late; when dealing with anything related to Islamic Believers.... its always everyone else...never the muslim

Last edited by LazFX on May-18-2007 at 04:44

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Originally posted by Yoepus Right of course. The problem is always something external. Its never the Palestinian. It must be the West, or America, or Jews, or free trade, or some global conspiracy. Never the Palestinians. Never the local players. Right on.

REALLY !!
here're SOME examples:

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Israeli war planes carry out three strikes in Gaza; five Palestinians killed Five Palestinians were killed on Friday morning when Israeli planes attacked several locations in Gaza city. Friday May 18, 2007 10:48 by Ghassan Bannoura - IMEMC& Agencies Palestinian sources stated that the jets targeted a group gathered in the Al Zaiton neighborhood, east of Gaza city. A Hamas-affiliated site,www.palestine-info.info, reported that those killed were members of the Al Qassam brigades, the armed wing of Hamas. Sources in the Palestinian Ministry of Health in Gaza reported that among the dead were Ahmad Siam, 23, Ahmad Saleh, 24, Saleh Juha, 24, Hatem Al Jabareen, 25, and Waleed Al Hijen, 25. Doctors stated that all five bodies were severely burned and mutilated. The same sources also reported scores of injured people, with at least five currently lying in a critical condition. For their part, Palestinian resistance groups continued to fire homemade Qassam shells at Israeli targets in the Negev and the nearby Israeli town of Siderot. Israeli sources reported damage to some buildings but no injuries. On Thursday evening, two Israelis were injured when a Qassam shell hit a synagogue in Siderot.

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Three Palestinian children injured as army invades Tulkarem city Friday May 18, 2007 11:23 by Ghassan Bannoura - IMEMC News Palestinian sources reported that three Palestinian children were injured by Israeli army fire as the latter invaded the northern West Bank city of Tulkarem on Thursday night and Friday morning. Eyewitnesses reported that after storming the eastern side of Tulkarem late on Thursday late night, soldiers attacked and searched scores of homes, forced families to leave, firing sound bombs and damaging houses. In the early hours of Friday morning, clashes erupted between stone-throwing children and the invading troops. Medical sources stated that the soldiers fired live rounds and rubber bullets at the boys, injuring three. The Israeli army stated that the operation aimed to apprehend so-called “Wanted Palestinians”. Local sources in the city reported that the army left after capturing no one.

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Israeli army kills a Palestinian child near Bethlehem Friday May 18, 2007 11:31 by Ghassan Bannoura - IMEMC& Agencies Palestinian sources reported on Friday that a Palestinian child died in Beit Jala public hospital, located in the southern West Bank city of Bethlehem, after being shot by Israeli soldiers late on Thursday night. (image:not permitted) A group of Israeli soldiers attacked homes in the village of Beit Fajar, located to the south of Bethlehem city. During the attack, soldiers randomly opened fire on a group of children playing in front of their homes, critically injuring Ziad Takatka, 16. The boy was moved to Bethlehem public hospital, but later died from his wounds. Also early on Friday, an Israeli force invaded the village of Obadiyah, east of Bethlehem city. Soldiers searched a number of homes and kidnapped two Palestinian civilians in the incursion.

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Originally posted by Lilith ************, who caused it. Not at all good.

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Originally posted by LazFX Typical, well at least of late; when dealing with anything related to Islamic Believers.... its always everyone else...never the muslim

Here's the full right story:

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Last edited by M.Johan on May-18-2007 at 12:02

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Originally posted by Lilith ************, who caused it. Not at all good.

"************" is not a word.

Who is to blame?

The Palestinians for voting in Hamas?

or

The international community for cutting off aid?

The funny thing is, Palestinians still believe shooting rockets into Israel is going to help them with their statehood. That's evident in the fact they voted in the primary rocket launchers.

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