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phantom limb
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Registered: Jul 2007
Location: Northeast
Hello! Money Makes The World Go Round

So I've piqued your interest. Although this isn't the exactly perfect forum for this question I'm gonna inquire anyway.

I'm just curious, that if one does produce a fairly rocking trance track, how much do you get paid (e.g. if its signed by Anjunabeats or Armada or something)? Is it fairly reasonable? The more exact the figures, the better. If you got a story that would be much appreciated as well.

Old Post Jul-27-2007 15:23  United States
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Allied Nations
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I know $1000 is a standard remix fee from most edm labels.


As per original track, really depends on a lot of things...


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
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I know $1000 is a standard remix fee from most edm labels.

You're joking, right?


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DJ RANN
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A mate of mine (isn't it always?) knows Ultrabeat and he has literally made a couple of million. Single sales won't make you huge amounts unless you make a classic or an international No.1 that will get played in every euro trance disco (say with comedy euro accent). (ATB has his own private jet, bought and paid for. Thank you 9am). The way to make money is getting it signed to compilations, it being used for adverts/TV slots, or making an album that sells well.

Moby made a reported $18m before porcelain was released due to the all the commercials and TV slots that bought the rights to use tracks.

But hold on, screw this thread - this is the sort of talk that killed trance in the UK! Seriously, I hate this sort of thing because what gets churned out under the label of "trance" (by the aformentioned parties) is to EDM what Brian Adams is to Rock or like saying Justin Timberlake makes really underground hip-hop.

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Allied Nations
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You're joking, right?



ive actually heard that from a lot of folks... usually only if its pressed... im not talking netlabel nonsense here...


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a good label i know that releases digital and about 1000 12" copies pays about £600 for a track that is worth vinyl release.


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Mr.Mystery
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quote:
Originally posted by Allied Nations
ive actually heard that from a lot of folks... usually only if its pressed... im not talking netlabel nonsense here...

Oh I don't even consider netlabels real labels. It just seems a bit excessive nowadays.


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Allied Nations
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quote:
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Oh I don't even consider netlabels real labels. It just seems a bit excessive nowadays.




at least we agree on something I suppose it depends from label to label, but I've heard 1000 tossed around by a couple people i know in very different music scenes.... who knows though.... i know some people who've done remixes for free as well so who knows-


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quote:
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nothing for my three releases on armada.

Digital?

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MrJiveBoJingles
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quote:
Originally posted by DJ RANN
But hold on, screw this thread - this is the sort of talk that killed trance in the UK! Seriously, I hate this sort of thing because what gets churned out under the label of "trance" (by the aformentioned parties) is to EDM what Brian Adams is to Rock or like saying Justin Timberlake makes really underground hip-hop.

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zodiac9
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ATB does live shows, he tours that is. I don't even consider Moby an EDM artist, what he does is more like Alternative Rock. He does live concerts too, and there's a lot of money in that. Yes, Moby cleans up with publishing rights for his music, that by far seems the most lucrative way to go, if you can get it. In fact, coincidence, I just heard a Moby song on TV. Oh, I can't forget merchandising for these artists, T-shirts, ect. I doubt either of these 2 artist make a lot off of CD or Vinyl sales, specially nowdays. Record sales, in general, are in a slump. People like to buy Itunes singles, instead of a whole albumn, that means a lot less revenue.

Several artists on this forum have said they make an average of $100 per digital release. I consider that doing extremely well actually. Selling 20 digital releases is considered great. If you can manage to get a track on a vinyl or CD compilation from a major label, then you get hundreds to thousands.

quote:
Originally posted by dj_palm
i got 150EUR from a remix. and nothing for my three releases on armada.


Congrads on getting on Armada. Sorry bout no sales though. It's rough out there. I've been at this long enough now to know you can't really expect a lot from digital sales. I haven't got into remixing yet, but sounds a better way to go. I really question sometimes if Digital releases are even worth the effort. The market is saturated.


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i made like only 55 bucks on Emotive Sounds, and my sales of my tracks were a bit reasonable.


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