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Andryuha
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Eliminating breakdowns.

I've noticed that all good DJs have relatively few breakdowns throughout their sets. And it does make sense, because this allows them to maintain the flow. I was wondering how they do it. Do they use ableton to edit their tunes beforehand (I can't figure out how to do this)? Are they using an additional deck for loops?

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Ryan0751
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Re: Eliminating breakdowns.

Ableton for re-edits.

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Originally posted by Andryuha
I've noticed that all good DJs have relatively few breakdowns throughout their sets. And it does make sense, because this allows them to maintain the flow. I was wondering how they do it. Do they use ableton to edit their tunes beforehand (I can't figure out how to do this)? Are they using an additional deck for loops?

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Mr.Mystery
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Re: Re: Eliminating breakdowns.

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Ableton for re-edits.

A bit of an overkill if editing away breakdowns is the only thing you're gonna do with it.


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Andryuha
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Re: Re: Re: Eliminating breakdowns.

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A bit of an overkill if editing away breakdowns is the only thing you're gonna do with it.


So what's the best method then?

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Ryan0751
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Re: Re: Re: Eliminating breakdowns.

Yes and no. At least you'll be sure it's on beat, with an audio editor it's tedious. And obviously you'd end up doing more with Ableton than just that

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A bit of an overkill if editing away breakdowns is the only thing you're gonna do with it.

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Beatflux
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Re: Eliminating breakdowns.

quote:
Originally posted by Andryuha
I've noticed that all good DJs have relatively few breakdowns throughout their sets. And it does make sense, because this allows them to maintain the flow. I was wondering how they do it. Do they use ableton to edit their tunes beforehand (I can't figure out how to do this)? Are they using an additional deck for loops?


LIke who?


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Andryuha
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Re: Re: Eliminating breakdowns.

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LIke who?


Like John Digweed for instance. In fact, I saw him yesterday. I really paid attention to his technique.

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nefardec
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lol that's because it's John Digweed

btw was it a good show? tried to get my brother and old friends in cleveland to go out....


Especially with the music Digweed plays, it's not very difficult to mix in over breakdowns. But yeah, edits help too. When I want to make people dance I avoid breakdowns at all costs.

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hooj1
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Re: Re: Eliminating breakdowns.

quote:
Originally posted by Ryan0751
Ableton for re-edits.


+1
best program for this. i've tried using sound editors for this but it has to be a perfect cut or the track will go off beat by a millisecond or two which is enough to throw you off.

i think edits are very underrated. doing your own edits can really set you apart from other djs.


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Zild
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Personally most of my music does not feature very many breakdowns and those that are there I don't have any problem mixing over. Think about things like hey this song has a boring into then a breakdown then the main part kicks in then it has another short breakdown then it kicks back in and flows into the outro. If you don't want those breakdowns cue the song after it comes back from the first breakdown and then mix over the second breakdown or mix out before it hits. When you're mixing you don't have to let the whole song play. It is up to you which parts you play or not.


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Andryuha
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quote:
Originally posted by nefardec
lol that's because it's John Digweed

btw was it a good show? tried to get my brother and old friends in cleveland to go out....


Especially with the music Digweed plays, it's not very difficult to mix in over breakdowns. But yeah, edits help too. When I want to make people dance I avoid breakdowns at all costs.


The show was a blast. It took place outdoors (right by the Powerhouse) and wasn't very crowded, plus the weather was perfect.

I knew what to expect as far as the music goes, because I've been a fan of Digweed, since Northern Exposure came out (and I love prog house). I was a bit surprised that he didn't really interact with the crowd. Yet, he managed to play all the right tunes and had people jumping all over the place. His style definitely set him apart from the other big names.

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I was a bit surprised that he didn't really interact with the crowd. Yet, he managed to play all the right tunes and had people jumping all over the place.


exactly why he didn't interact witht he crowd

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