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Eric J
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With Two Flat Panel Screens, good speaker positioning?

OK, so we all know that the optimal setup for your studio reference monitors is an equilateral triangle. How can you achieve this precise monitor positioning when you have two flat screen monitors sitting next to each other?

It seems to me that if you have two 19 inch flat panel monitors sitting right next to each other, then you would not be able to achieve proper monitor positioning because your reference monitors would be too far apart.

How do those of you with two flat screens deal with this? Also, what size of monitor (17 inch, 19 inch, etc.) are you using?

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What IS the correct positioning of monitors?


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Re: With Two Flat Panel Screens, good speaker positioning?

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What IS the correct positioning of monitors?


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Originally posted by Eric J
OK, so we all know that the optimal setup for your studio reference monitors is an equilateral triangle.


Anyway, I have 2x 22" widescreens and just placed my speakers next to them. works nice and is almost equilateral. maybe you could move the speakers a bit backwards if the space between you and the speakers is smaller than that in between the speakers?


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Ah right, my monitors are positioned like this, and with 2x19'' widescreen monitors inbetween


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Anyway, I have 2x 22" widescreens and just placed my speakers next to them. works nice and is almost equilateral. maybe you could move the speakers a bit backwards if the space between you and the speakers is smaller than that in between the speakers?


Yeah, I figured I would probably do that. The only thing is I was told by echosystem not to have your monitors in front of your speakers even a little bit as this produces comb filtering.

I figure that I can just do what you did Storyteller and it should work out OK.

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Yeah, I figured I would probably do that. The only thing is I was told by echosystem not to have your monitors in front of your speakers even a little bit as this produces comb filtering.

I figure that I can just do what you did Storyteller and it should work out OK.


Just listen for yourself if it affects the sound in a way you don't like. If so, then try and think of another solution.


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Eric J
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Originally posted by palm
i cant realy understand how the position of the screens will do anything with the sound.


here is the original quote from echosystm:

quote:
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Back towards the wall mate

Sound doesnt come straight out the front of the speakers, it comes out the edges too. Comb filtering and reflections are almost impossible to remove entirely since your screen would be so far back you couldn't read it. Life is about compromises.

If you have your screen like 2-3 inches behind the front of your speakers you should be fine.

ATM you have...

/ <- Speaker
-| <- Screen
\ <- Speaker

Make it like...
-/ <- Speaker
| <- Screen
-\ <- Speaker


I can see what he is saying, and when i'd made the adjustment he suggested, I could hear a bit of a difference.

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Originally posted by palm
i think u need bigger distance between the monitors(audio) anyway to get proper stereo


Well the setup pages in my reference monitors (Event Project Studio 6) suggested that I use the equilateral triangle setup. For my monitors that appears to be the optimal configuration. So that means an equilateral triangle with the monitors spaced approx. 3 ft apart, and me sitting in the middle so it makes a triangle that has 3ft long sides. I have also seen this verified on a few websites found via google.

You monitors may have a different requirement, so I cannot speak to those.

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I've got TR6s, which are effectively the same thing. Realistically, you're never going to get your monitors positioned perfectly. It just doesnt happen. My monitors are about 85cm apart measuring from the tweeters, but I sit about 75cm from them. They say to aim for 90 to 120cm, so I guess I'm just a bit out of that. I am short sighted anyway, so I can't really be sitting any further back from my sceen haha.

Another point, you have to chose whether to have your speakers crossing over infront of you or behind you. Sitting exactly where they cross over usually sounds a bit odd. You can gain another 10-15cm distance between the speakers if they are crossing over just behind your head. This is what I have done, since my desk is only 1.2m wide.

It's ok to have your screen just infront of your monitors, but not too much. Most of the sound roughly comes out in a 45 degree arc, but some obviously does go a tiny bit more than that. Provided your screen isnt in that space, you should be ok.

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actually 2 LCDs is not a problem. i use 3 widescreens and it's only slightly affecting the stereo in comparison to the perfect position.

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Storyteller
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Hahaha that would be killer to have.

On the other hand my computer already has trouble filling 2 22" screens . It get's slow if there's too much action on screen hahahaha. That's what you get for having an old machine .

If you stay near the equilateral triangle it's mostly good though. I had days where my distance from the speakers was almost half of the distance between the speakers. It totally ruins the stereo imaging. Glad those days have passed since I saved up and bought my new ikea desk 1.5 yrs ago

It is so important to create an efficient working space. Take your time and try different set-ups when possible. Sometimes the changes in sound can be extremely large. It took me a lot of time to figure out what worked for me. I still haven't got my speakers aligned properly. Probably off 40-50cm but I don't care it's ok now .


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