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Originally posted by damnuok I'm curious... I'd like to know, if anyone here knows, how much can someone like...o'callaghan (just an example) make from 1 track. and how much can get an average 'famous' producer.. also, what was the highest $ u got by producing? and the lowest? (1track) also, have u ever got f*cked by a label? (like they trying to steal ur stuff or smth...) really, this isn't a big deal, I'm not into producing anything serious, just a few tracks to share with friends, it's just my curiosity speaking, 'cause I've read somewhere someone (famous) saying that Producers get very low $ compared to DJs. cheers!

the only source of income that is worth mentioning comes from Djing..
and for that they could make anywhere from $1000-20000 more or less and that also depends on a lot of things as well..

last time tiesto came to Toronto i talked to the event coordinator and he was saying they paid him $50000 which i find hard to believe and douth but you never know..

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Originally posted by damnuok I'm curious... I'd like to know, if anyone here knows, how much can someone like...o'callaghan (just an example) make from 1 track. and how much can get an average 'famous' producer.. also, what was the highest $ u got by producing? and the lowest? (1track) also, have u ever got f*cked by a label? (like they trying to steal ur stuff or smth...) really, this isn't a big deal, I'm not into producing anything serious, just a few tracks to share with friends, it's just my curiosity speaking, 'cause I've read somewhere someone (famous) saying that Producers get very low $ compared to DJs. cheers!

there is lots of money in producing. Just not so much electronic music.

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Originally posted by System101 the only source of income that is worth mentioning comes from Djing..

Not really.

"Famous" producers tracks usually get thousands of downloads per distributer when they get on the top 10 chart. Thousands of downloads from 1 site is quite a sum of cash, and labels such a bpitch, poker flat, minus ect. ect. distribute on a shit load of music sites.

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Originally posted by jupiterone Not really. "Famous" producers tracks usually get thousands of downloads per distributer when they get on the top 10 chart. Thousands of downloads from 1 site is quite a sum of cash, and labels such a bpitch, poker flat, minus ect. ect. distribute on a shit load of music sites.

Djing gives much more money, PVD ask 30.000 $US for hour, go figure.
Unless you are a main stream artist, like all the crappy bands, in the tv, you wont get alot of money, yes, big shot producers like tiesto (cough), armin, etc, can get a good income from sales, but Djing&playing live, is where the big bucks are.

Kopi =o.

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The digital age has shaken up the record industry. CD sales are way down, every style of music is affected. I'm sure the major EDM artists are feelng it. Nowdays, live performance is where the money is. So DJ/producer is the way to go. A DJ is able to promote their music, so they sell a lot more CDs and digital downloads.

I really don't have no clue as to how much Digweed, Sasha, or other mainstream producers make off music sales. There's no doubt that DJing is their bread and butter. The average producer, like us ones here, are lucky to sell 20 tracks per release. My first release I sold 14 tracks. I was told that was good, LOL. It's pretty discouraging.

My bad experience with a label was due to laziness on their part. They were slow to get releases out, and would hardly even answer my emails. They did pay me though.

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Originally posted by kopi_luwak Djing gives much more money, PVD ask 30.000 $US for hour, go figure. Unless you are a main stream artist, like all the crappy bands, in the tv, you wont get alot of money, yes, big shot producers like tiesto (cough), armin, etc, can get a good income from sales, but Djing&playing live, is where the big bucks are. Kopi =o.

Yes but I am trying to make note of the fact that mainstream producers can make quite a sum of money off a hit that charts top 10 on download sites like beatport. Most of new releases these guys get usually chart top 10 and they release quite a few tracks a month. I'm sure it might be enough for most of them that aren't really too hungry to make as much as PVD/Tiesto.

But ofcourse DJ'ing is where the big bucks are. Then again, get a few good deals a year for tv spots/commercials/shows and you're living pretty well.

From what I've heard, DJing gets money, remixing also gets money, 20 000 was a remixing fee for one big name DJ a couple of years ago.

Producing CAN get money, provided you get tracks on compilations, that is, if your track becomes a big hit and everyone recognises it. But this is not that likely, and will only last a couple of years. So its not really a stable income.
Beatport is making it easier for smaller producers to get onto DJ's playlists though, so you might get some money from that...I don't really know any of this from personal experience, but from what I've heard you make most money through remixing and compilations, DJing too if your good.
I can't believe that PVD only charges $30/hour though, thats really not that much...

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Originally posted by kitphillips From what I've heard, DJing gets money, remixing also gets money, 20 000 was a remixing fee for one big name DJ a couple of years ago. Producing CAN get money, provided you get tracks on compilations, that is, if your track becomes a big hit and everyone recognises it. But this is not that likely, and will only last a couple of years. So its not really a stable income. Beatport is making it easier for smaller producers to get onto DJ's playlists though, so you might get some money from that...I don't really know any of this from personal experience, but from what I've heard you make most money through remixing and compilations, DJing too if your good. I can't believe that PVD only charges $30/hour though, thats really not that much...

Not 30$, but 30,000$

Oh my bad That sounds more like it That sounds like too much now... But I guess I wouldn't be suprised

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My mate and i were just doing the maths one day... If we presume that you get 3k downloads off beatport, your earned revenue would be around 2k €.
So in order to live off production alone, one has to make a hit track ... every month.

Of course, compilation licensing can't be included here, and some other stuff which would naturally come if one had a smasher released every month.

Sure, no prob, huh?

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Originally posted by Tarpex My mate and i were just doing the maths one day... If we presume that you get 3k downloads off beatport, your earned revenue would be around 2k €. So in order to live off production alone, one has to make a hit track ... every month. Of course, compilation licensing can't be included here, and some other stuff which would naturally come if one had a smasher released every month. Sure, no prob, huh?

Your maths isn't very good.

Lets assume the average Beatport track is US$1.75 (halfway between $1.50 and $2.00). Thats $5,250 in revenue for Beatport, for 3,000 sales. Let's say Beatport has a markup of 50% (this is what iTunes has). That's US$2,625 revenue left for the label. I'm going to guess that the artist probably gets somewhere around 5%. Thats US$130.

Basically, you wouldn't want to rely on Beatport. lol.