I just got a Pioneer CDJ100s for rent from a store here, i tried it out with my 2Tech1200s and Vestaxpmc270a. Ive got to say the effects on the PIoneer are kinda cool when you first get to use it, but gets to be overused when you play too much with it . Anyways, i found that its a little difficult playing with CDs, since ive been playing with vinyl for 2 years, it feels more comfortable and i can mix well with turntables,

however when i tried to mix with the CD mixer, my beats are slightly off. I noticed that the PIoneer CDj100s only go to the tenth decimal point for pitch (like 2.4 or 3.6), its kinda annoying because i found a few tracks that were somewhere between 0.4 and 0.3 pitch, and i couldnt nail the bpm. Ya, so does anyone have any experience from this pioneer pitch problem?

Ya so anyways, i like vinyl better , althought the good points of cd player is that you can play burned cds.

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(wow my useless ranting)

I, too, like vinyl better.

Of course, you can play burned CD's, but will you respect yourself as a DJ if you do that and compromise on sound quality?

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the reason why im getting cd players is because 1) i have to play for my grad (like, not trance music), and 2)i might as well use cd players since clubs have em

I think the best is to use both. ANyways, for the pitch problem, the common way to solve it is simply listen carefully till the beats slip away then quickly fixing it before the crowd notices. Sorry, no way to get an exact pitch...

Except, and not enuff ppl do this, is to change the already playing track's pitch by 0.1, 0.2 etc. then you can probably nail the right pitch with the other one.

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CDs!

Seriously, I love my cdj1000's. You couldn't pry them away from me, not for any amount of cash and stacks of vinyl. Easier to use than analog turntables, and when you actually get *good* you have way more features and options to exploit.

Vinyls for ever and ever? How long do you guys really think that vinyl will dominate the industry? *Nothing* lasts forever. The only thing that will keep vinyl as the dominant media is the whole "image" thing...

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Originally posted by Psylence CDs! Seriously, I love my cdj1000's. You couldn't pry them away from me, not for any amount of cash and stacks of vinyl. Easier to use than analog turntables, and when you actually get *good* you have way more features and options to exploit. Vinyls for ever and ever? How long do you guys really think that vinyl will dominate the industry? *Nothing* lasts forever. The only thing that will keep vinyl as the dominant media is the whole "image" thing...

Well, I disagree with this.
99% of Trance music is released on vinyl.

If you're going to play anything other than the Top-10 hits (of which there are 10, as the title implies ) then your only choice is vinyl.

Plus, vinyl has some analog properties that render the sound "warmer" and more enjoyable.

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Availability of music has more to do with ones personal convictions than which media it's originally released on

But I digress. I'll be acquiring a record player soon, but one with an optical out for making those perfect digital rips off of good vinyl..

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Originally posted by Psylence Availability of music has more to do with ones personal convictions than which media it's originally released on

... which is my point, that MP3 is a lossy format and you'll be compromising the sound quality when you burn MP3 CD's. If that's the direction you want to go in, then why do you need any kind of equipment at all, you can just mix MP3's on a computer. No self-respecting DJ would do that, in my opinion, because the quality is of utmost importance.

And if you don't encode into MP3 but rather deal directly with WAV, you'll still have to access to all the original vinyl in order to rip the music into WAV. You'll still have to buy the vinyl or borrow it from someone, but you'll be dealing with vinyl -- that's the point. It's silly to waste time and money getting the vinyl only to use it for conversion purposes.

Either way, vinyl is the preferred choice for Trance. This is what I think.

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Last edited by Eugene on May-06-2002 at 16:37

if the pitch thing is your only problem, then just adjust the pitch on the other deck, where i'm assuming you're playing vinyl.
if not, then a quick little adjustment here and there during the mix won't hurt anyone

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I agree 100% with the sound quality issue.. Done right, vinyl sounds great; mp3's can leave a bit to be desired in the sound department. As more of a hobbyist that a professional at this, the cdj's suit me way better.. and mixing on the pc didn't interest me in the least bit. I spend all day on computers, and needed a hobby that was more hands on
If I were looking to be a real DJ, I would most definitely have begun with vinyl.. but I have no apsirations beyond entertaining myself and my friends. As far as using the vinyl to convert, maybe I'm strange, but I'd rather just archive the vinyl and use the cdj's exclusively. That way the records stay in shape, and I can use the more user friendly cdj's

Are there any CD decks that are more accurate with the pitch? because the pitch is very important, and the effects dont really matter to me. The jog dial is pretty good though. I like vinyl way better. There is more control, just drop the needle on the spot and cue up.