that guy reminded me of Ben Stiller

Send both of these assholes to Iraq for a year maybe then theyll have a better view on "war on terror".

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lol@ Oreilly trying to make Saudi Arabia look good and innnocent. Basically he is saying it is ok for a country to have extremists point of view but as long as they are on the American side they are ok.

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Originally posted by Q5echo that guy reminded me of Ben Stiller

Are you mocking blue steel?!? Come on, no one else is that ridiculously good looking!

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Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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Originally posted by shaolin_Z Are you mocking blue steel?!?

i think thats Le Tigre, but i could be wrong

i was going to thread this but i'll put it here.
shaolin_Z if you want me to delete it say the word.

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Saudis to retrain 40,000 clerics By Magdi Abdlehadi BBC Arab Affairs analyst The Saudis have been under pressure to encourage tolerance Saudi Arabia is to retrain its 40,000 prayer leaders - also known as imams - in an effort to counter militant Islam. Details of the plan were revealed in the influential Saudi newspaper Al-Sharq al-Awsat. The plan is part of a wider programme launched by the Saudi monarch a few years ago to encourage moderation and tolerance in Saudi society. The ministry of religious affairs and new centre for national dialogue will carry out the training, the paper said. The centre was created five years ago to disseminate a moderate interpretation of Islamic tradition. There is growing awareness in Saudi society that security measures alone are not enough to counter the threat of Islamic militancy. Scepticism Saudi clerics have long been accused of encouraging Saudi youth to join global jihad and of inciting hatred of non-Muslims. Nearly 1,000 imams have already been sacked over the past few years. The Saudi royal family has come under increasing pressure - mainly from Washington - to change religious textbooks and to rein in militant clerics. But critics are sceptical about whether such initiatives would work as long as the powerful, and ultraconservative, religious establishment in Saudi Arabia continues to exert enormous influence over society. Only last week, a prominent cleric called for the beheading of two liberal writers who had questioned the orthodox view that Muslims can not change their religion. >LINK<

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Originally posted by Q5echo i was going to thread this but i'll put it here. shaolin_Z if you want me to delete it say the word.

I'm not pro cencorship, so no need to delete it. I appreciate the gesture, but I'm highly skeptical of the article. Saudi Arabia is a degenerate Wahabi stronghold. That's a refering to the state of course, not the people. I don't really see the Saudi monarch dare pissing of the Wahabis they're in bed with. Plus, it's the goverments means of exterting control and coercing the population. Wahabism is the sickest manifestation of fundamentalist perversion of the religion out there. As much as I'd like to see it disappear, I'm guessing it isn't going to any time soon unfortunately.

Peace.

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"The Greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge." -Stephen Hawking
"First they came for the communists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a communist;
Then they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a socialist;
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller