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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Well here's a new variation of the dog ate my homework by our wonderful Executive Branch: Huh. These are considered public documents, right? Well thank goodness the White House is "looking into the matter." Am I to understand the bullshit line that the hard drives are not only gone, but the White House doesn't even bother to back up their shit in the first place? Riiiiiight. Good thing the judge gave them 3 days to find some answers on their own. They sure found, uhh, something alright. Good grief.

The local credit union I work for has a better data backup/archive than that crap. "All email is the personal property of the company and subject to review." They are playing games in the White House..

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Not surprising - we go through the same thing at work every year...

/files it under 'big deal' drawer...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Not surprising - we go through the same thing at work every year... /files it under 'big deal' drawer...

Your office isn't the gravitational core of the executive branch of the governing body of 300 million individuals, either.

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Originally posted by DJ Shibby Your office isn't the gravitational core of the executive branch of the governing body of 300 million individuals, either.

Come on, the suggestion that the government isn't backing anything up from these drives is ludicrous at best.

It's an industry standard to scrub old drives before disposing of them!

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Come on, the suggestion that the government isn't backing anything up from these drives is ludicrous at best. It's an industry standard to scrub old drives before disposing of them!

It may be the industry standard, but it's certainly not the standard of the Executive Branch of the federal government who's required by law to have backups of every email going into and out of the office.

They're trying hard to stall and play everyone for fools, but the bottom line is they should have had those emails backed up somehow.

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dog ate my homework, dailykos.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 They're trying hard to stall and play everyone for fools, but the bottom line is they should have had those emails backed up somehow.

And any fool in the industry would know that emails are NOT backed up on local hard drives...

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r And any fool in the industry would know that emails are NOT backed up on local hard drives...

Umm, huh?

You do realize that most of everything you do on the computer is on the hard drive unless it's scrubbed or shredded, i.e. overwritten with useless data (like one number). So yes, the judge has every right to question and examine each workstation, considering how the archiving of emails on servers or backup data was supposedly ignored. Information may very likely still be on a workstation, although the investigation would become much more tedious.

"Backed up," not exactly. But they are likely there provided no additional data has overwritten them.

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Originally posted by MisterOpus1 Umm, huh? You do realize that most of everything you do on the computer is on the hard drive unless it's scrubbed or shredded, i.e. overwritten with useless data (like one number). So yes, the judge has every right to question and examine each workstation, considering how the archiving of emails on servers or backup data was supposedly ignored. Information may very likely still be on a workstation, although the investigation would become much more tedious. "Backed up," not exactly. But they are likely there provided no additional data has overwritten them.

They are trying to combine two different events into one suggestion that emails are missing because of scrubbed hard drives which isn't the case.
See below.

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the White House has been archiving e-mails on White House servers since early in the administration.

Scrubbing hard drives is done all the time - there's no mystery about this.
I would hope they would after a corporate refresh since it is standard security protocol (in any business, government or otherwise).

While they may be missing a permanent archiving email system (as stupid as that is) on their servers, corporate email systems are not delivered to a workstation and leave the server - they remain on the server.

Believe me, I go through this everyday at work...

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Our entire government is built on the basis of 'plausible deny ability' . . . why wouldn't the White House email system be built around the same idea?

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Originally posted by Dieselboy_1206 Our entire government is built on the basis of 'plausible deny ability' . . . why wouldn't the White House email system be built around the same idea?

It's too convenient for the those that don't like government entities - not that I'm a big fan of big government either.

Lets look at it this way, any sensitive information would never be left on a workstation alone...

Had they been scrubbing hard drive servers this article would have a totally meaning.

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The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all change to silver glass...and then you see it...
...white shores...and beyond...the far green country under a swift sunrise."